[Collins] Question about Collins and Eldico Clones

[Bob Wilder]

Sure agree the S-119 was not a clone have used both the S-119 and S-Line 
sitting side by side while stationed in Chateauroux, France and the two set 
are as different to operate as day and night.



At 09:20 AM 2/9/2005 -0600, Freeberg, Scott (STP) wrote:

>Thats what I've heard also, that Don Merten bristled when the Eldico twins 
>were called 'clones'.  Clones do imply something less than honorable in 
>these discussions, so I can see why that would be a continued irritant to 
>Don.  My read on it, and this is after filtering 2nd, 3rd, and 4th hand 
>information :), is that Eldico started out with the S-line documentation 
>and design, and then came up with their version which met the GSA 
>requirements and specifications for function and performance but at a much 
>much lower cost.  When you think about it, that could have been their big 
>break into the ham market, a rig with the same specifications as Collins 
>but at an affordable price.  So thats why its both so similar and yet 
>different enough not to be a clone.  When I think of clone, a clone is a 
>copy and I don't think the Eldico is a copy.  Thats my read on it anyway.
>
>In the 'what if' department, what if Eldico did a KWM-2 clone or 
>variation.....I think that would have been very interesting.
>
>Thanks for that additional info on the number of S-119's made and that 
>some quantify was directly sold to the ham market.  I suppose most of the 
>ones that are out there were from the MARS contract.
>
>I didn't know that the Eldico S119 was only sold as a full set.  I would 
>have thought they would have offered individual pieces to the ham 
>market.  But from what you said, the ham market didn't develop due to 
>lawsuits and the affordable Heath look-a-likes :))))))
>
>I'd like to find a nice S-119 setup.  If anyone has any leads on an Eldico 
>S-119 setup for sale, I'd appreciate hearing about it.  Thanks.
>
>73, Scott WA9WFA
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