I'm sure that most of you have seen the page at http://dx.qsl.net/propagation/ but I just ran across it a few minutes ago. It has more information on propagation in one page than I have been able to find in a combination of pages elsewhere. The only item I'm not sure about is the time. It showed 8 minutes ahead of WWV. But if that is the only problem then do I care? Not! C Ya Pat