[COham] Fw: [CCARC] problems with Juno accounts

Thu, 26 Dec 2002 18:44:21 -0700

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nate Duehr" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 8:30 AM
Subject: [CCARC] problems with Juno accounts


> All mail from QTH.net to Juno.com addresses is bouncing.  This is the
> same fight ARRL.net addresses had with HotMail and others who are
> fighting "spam" mail, but going about it the wrong way.
>
> Of course, those on Juno who really need to see this message may or may
> not get it... however please notify all of your friends who use Juno who
> may also use QTH.net that their CCARC mail and any other QTH.net hosted
> mailing lists is bouncing... close to 10,000 mail addresses that will
> not accept mail from QTH.net.
>
> Attached is Al K3TKJ's message, the host of QTH.net.  Please pass it
along.
>
> (And as a more personal note, WHO ARE THESE IDIOTS running places like
> Juno and Hotmail these days?!  They appear to need "severe remedial
> training" on how Internet Mail works... otherwise known as a 10,000 user
> slap to the back of their heads.  Complain.  Loudly.  These people are
> clueless *and* thoughtless, a wonderful combination.  I highly recommend
> staying away from doing business with them, if you're paying them for
> service.  Vote with your dollars and pick a small local ISP that both
> has staff that knows what they're doing, and that doesn't break how
> Internet Mail has been delivered since the eighties by idiotic
> filtering.  Make spam illegal, don't cripple the servers to fight them.)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nate Duehr, WY0X
> Secretary and Mailing List Admin, CCARC
>
> -----
>
>
> You are receiving this mail because you have a mail forwarding account
> at QSL.NET of you are a subscriber to one or more of the mailing lists
> at Mailman.QTH.NET.
>
> For the past several weeks Juno.com has been refusing mail for you via
> your QSL.NET account. I switched mail servers to keep your QSL.NET mail
> flowing assuming they were not bright enough to figure out how I could
> do this and it seems I was right. The mail is getting to you....by a
> round about way.  Yesterday they started refusing mail from the list
> servers at Mailman.QTH.NET. There are almost 10,000 juno addresses
> impacted by their actions. You WILL NOT receive mail from QSL or QTH
> until they remove the blocks.
>
> I need your help in educating them about ham radio and list servers as
> they seem to think we are spammers.
>
> Please contact juno.com and ask them why they are denying your access to
> your mail from the following SMTP servers:
>
> mail.qsl.net            63.238.179.181
> mailman.qth.net      64.238.2.60
>
>
> There is power in numbers so let's get their attention so this problem
> will go away forever and we can play ham radio again. Please contact
> Juno customer service by phone or e-mail and ask them why they are doing
> this to legitimate users?   Juno is on the web at http://www.juno.com
>
> Some addresses I have found at juno:
>
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
> [email protected]
>
>
> Please copy your complaint to EVERY ADDRESS above and follow it up with
> a phone call.
>
> 73 and thanks for the help,
>
> Al K3TKJ
>
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