From g.balinski at comcast.net Mon Jan 2 21:02:59 2017 From: g.balinski at comcast.net (GENE BALINSKI) Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 21:02:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Clegg] Help Needed Interceptor B muting question Message-ID: <1730307910.72257.1483408979841@connect.xfinity.com> All Con, I have an Interceptor B (IB) with the All-Bander (AB ) converter that I am trying to interface with a Zeus. Normally this is a easy and straight forward process. Unfortunately, the connections to the IB Aux Jack J-1 and the "Stand-By - Receive" (SR) switch have been "Hammy-Hammed" by the P.O., . : -( I am trying to make what I have work, in hopes that I do not need to get inside and try to fix the issue. According to the manuals, in order to mute the IB from the Zeus, one connects Pins 5 & 8 on the IB Aux 1 to the Zeus J-302 Pins 2 and 3. Pins 2 and 3 are NC contacts on K302, and will provide closed circuit there-by UN-MUTEING the IB. That, of course, allows the receiver to receive. When the Zeus is placed in to transmit, the K302 N/C contacts open up, and the IB is MUTED. So here is the question: How much voltage is placed across the K302 contacts when they are opened ? The reason that I ask, is that the P.O. left cryptic notes that indicates that IB J-1 Pins 1 and 3 instead of 5 & 8 are to be connected to Pins 2 and 3 on K302. However when I measure the voltage on Pin 1 to ground, it is 115 VAC, with the SR switch in the "Receive" position, and 0 VAC with the SR switch in Stby position. Pin 3 is at 0.22 VAC no matter what the switch position. Pins 5 is Gnd, and Pin 8 stays at 22 VDC no matter what the the SR switch position. Note, shorting Pin 8 to Pin 5 (Unmuting), does not unmute the receiver. So, is 115 VAC the normal voltage that would "normally" be present on IB J-1 Pins 5 &8 for muting/receive ? Can I safely assume that this is actually the muting contacts before I connect it up? 73 and thanks in advance for the help, HNY, Gene K1NR From blimpboy at sonic.net Tue Jan 3 09:11:56 2017 From: blimpboy at sonic.net (blimpy) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 06:11:56 -0800 Subject: [Clegg] Gene Inteterceptor Muting. Message-ID: <501BB98FEC4B4CA191D58600FB13845B@larryPC> 1. Assume nothing, unless you like expensive smoke. 2. Get the manuals.. trace the circuits. 3. If what you find is not correct according to the manual... then change it back to conform to the manual. You have the original gear.. make it work in the original way, using the manaul as your bible. In this way you not only will have gear which works correctly, but the next guy who comes along hasn't got a puzzle.. or some stupid , ill-advised - undocumented changes to deal with. I havent got time to dig mine out now and advise you... but I will tell you that the things as designed work just fine. ( I have the same radios including the wonderful all bander). A trick I use.. is to take the schematics to the copy store.. and have them blown up to 11x17. make a couple of copies. Then you can use colored markers to allow you follow various wires without any confusion. When I have more time.. I will try to help with specifics. Larry W6WUH no political, religious, or economic email, links, or blogs please. All spam will be forwarded to ISIS with your home address and momma's name. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 14708 (20170103) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From ranickel at comcast.net Tue Jan 3 12:45:54 2017 From: ranickel at comcast.net (Robert Nickels) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:45:54 -0600 Subject: [Clegg] Gene Inteterceptor Muting. In-Reply-To: <501BB98FEC4B4CA191D58600FB13845B@larryPC> References: <501BB98FEC4B4CA191D58600FB13845B@larryPC> Message-ID: <6b74cf0a-7f25-97cd-bb58-6087c4017784@comcast.net> On 1/3/2017 8:11 AM, blimpy wrote: > A trick I use.. is to take the schematics to the copy store.. and have them blown up to 11x17. > make a couple of copies. Then you can use colored markers to allow you follow various wires > without any confusion. A great idea, and one that prompts a question to the group. I have most of the original manuals in paper form, which in Clegg's case usually means "mimeo" copies and up to D size blueline prints that aren't the easiest to work with. It would be a great help for all Clegg owners to have the manuals digitized to pdf form to make it easier to print working copies of pages as needed etc. Especially the large drawings which would require a large-format scanner but which are also especially fragile and apt to get lost. For a number of years, there was repository of Clegg (and Swan) manuals at the site http://6mt.com - which now seems to be permanently gone. I wonder if anyone had the foresight to save copies that could now be uploaded to BAMA? (For some reason, BAMA doesn't even have a Clegg category, perhaps just because the manuals were available at the 6mt site). If not, I guess someone could buy and upload the pdf copies from the CDROM being sold on eBay, since that's probably where they came from in the first place! 73, Bob W9RAN From manualman at juno.com Tue Jan 3 13:24:49 2017 From: manualman at juno.com (manualman at juno.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2017 13:24:49 -0500 Subject: [Clegg] Gene Inteterceptor Muting. Message-ID: The majority of all the Clegg manuals that were done in mimeograph form have been reworked by me. They have been retyped, formatted, corrected (numerous errors and typos) and additional information added which came directly from Ed Clegg's files and was not in the original distributed manuals. All of these are available from me on my web site. Many of the original Clegg schematics were done on engineering size (6S or 8S) acidic paper which by now after 50 plus years have turned very brown and speckled. Fortunately, roughly 20 plus years ago, I had the sense to clean them up and replicate them on non acidic paper. Pete, wa2cwa www.classicradiomanuals.com On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:45:54 -0600 Robert Nickels writes: > On 1/3/2017 8:11 AM, blimpy wrote: > > A trick I use.. is to take the schematics to the copy store.. and > have them blown up to 11x17. > > make a couple of copies. Then you can use colored markers to > allow you follow various wires > > without any confusion. > > A great idea, and one that prompts a question to the group. > > I have most of the original manuals in paper form, which in Clegg's > case > usually means "mimeo" copies and up to D size blueline prints that > aren't the easiest to work with. It would be a great help for all > > Clegg owners to have the manuals digitized to pdf form to make it > easier > to print working copies of pages as needed etc. Especially the > large > drawings which would require a large-format scanner but which are > also > especially fragile and apt to get lost. > > For a number of years, there was repository of Clegg (and Swan) > manuals > at the site http://6mt.com - which now seems to be permanently > gone. > I wonder if anyone had the foresight to save copies that could now > be > uploaded to BAMA? (For some reason, BAMA doesn't even have a > Clegg > category, perhaps just because the manuals were available at the 6mt > site). > > If not, I guess someone could buy and upload the pdf copies from the > > CDROM being sold on eBay, since that's probably where they came from > in > the first place! > > 73, Bob W9RAN From ka1kaq at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 12:06:29 2017 From: ka1kaq at gmail.com (Todd, KA1KAQ) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:06:29 -0500 Subject: [Clegg] Gene Inteterceptor Muting. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was going to suggest this very thing, Pete. Something I need to do myself, along with the the list I started to compile before the move for the Lulu, etc. Bob - I also have most of the original manuals and have or had the 6mt files which made copies from years ago. They were marginal copies of bad originals, and basically look the same except for the discoloration and difficult to read in places. Better than nothing, but barely. I actually found an original Interceptor B manual on ebay a while back, but it's still packed up from the move. The originals are nice to have with the equipment if you want to sell it. If only I could find documentation on the Comet..... ~ Todd, KA1KAQ/4 On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 1:24 PM, wrote: > The majority of all the Clegg manuals that were done in mimeograph form > have been reworked by me. They have been retyped, formatted, corrected > (numerous errors and typos) and additional information added which came > directly from Ed Clegg's files and was not in the original distributed > manuals. All of these are available from me on my web site. Many of the > original Clegg schematics were done on engineering size (6S or 8S) acidic > paper which by now after 50 plus years have turned very brown and > speckled. Fortunately, roughly 20 plus years ago, I had the sense to > clean them up and replicate them on non acidic paper. > > Pete, wa2cwa > www.classicradiomanuals.com > > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:45:54 -0600 Robert Nickels > writes: > > On 1/3/2017 8:11 AM, blimpy wrote: > > > A trick I use.. is to take the schematics to the copy store.. and > > have them blown up to 11x17. > > > make a couple of copies. Then you can use colored markers to > > allow you follow various wires > > > without any confusion. > > > > A great idea, and one that prompts a question to the group. > > > > I have most of the original manuals in paper form, which in Clegg's > > case > > usually means "mimeo" copies and up to D size blueline prints that > > aren't the easiest to work with. It would be a great help for all > > > > Clegg owners to have the manuals digitized to pdf form to make it > > easier > > to print working copies of pages as needed etc. Especially the > > large > > drawings which would require a large-format scanner but which are > > also > > especially fragile and apt to get lost. > > > > For a number of years, there was repository of Clegg (and Swan) > > manuals > > at the site http://6mt.com - which now seems to be permanently > > gone. > > I wonder if anyone had the foresight to save copies that could now > > be > > uploaded to BAMA? (For some reason, BAMA doesn't even have a > > Clegg > > category, perhaps just because the manuals were available at the 6mt > > site). > > > > If not, I guess someone could buy and upload the pdf copies from the > > > > CDROM being sold on eBay, since that's probably where they came from > > in > > the first place! > > > > 73, Bob W9RAN > > ______________________________________________________________ > Clegg mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/clegg > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Clegg at mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >