[Boatanchors] Fun with old electrolytic caps
Charles
charlesmorris800 at centurytel.net
Sun Mar 20 20:04:32 EDT 2022
O'Toole's Commentary On Murphy's Law: Murphy was an optimist.
Luckily the choke didn't fail - not because I couldn't have found
something similar, but because it's mounted in a *really* inaccessible
part of the chassis. The capacitor bank comes out as a unit by removing
six 6-32 screws on the bottom plate!
On 3/20/22 18:56, Nick England wrote:
> Murphy’s Law #37(B)
> The unique hard-to-find choke will fail in order to protect the
> garden-variety cap.
>
> On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 7:46 PM Charles via Boatanchors
> <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
> An unexpected adventure this afternoon. I realized it had been a few
> years since I'd powered up my PP-7482/G (1 KVA 115v 400 Hz power
> supply)
> that I repaired 11 years ago, so I turned on the power strip and
> flipped
> its front panel breaker. A couple of seconds of 400 Hz transformer
> "singing" and the green NORMAL output light on, then the power
> strip's
> 15 amp breaker popped! Reset it, immediate trip. Thought it might
> be the
> cheap pushbutton breaker, so I plugged it directly into the 20 amp
> wall
> outlet. The front panel breaker didn't pop, but something started
> to let
> smelly smoke out so I quickly shut it off.
>
> It didn't take long to determine that the DC supply was a dead short.
> That consists of the non-isolated AC line entering through various LC
> filters (not Rifa caps), four hefty stud-mount rectifiers that
> share the
> H-bridge heat sink, and six paralleled 1100 uf, 200V Sprague 32D
> caps,
> which are short & fat compared to the more common 36D computer-grade
> caps. I quickly isolated the problem to the capacitor bank itself.
> After
> removing four caps and testing them for shorts, opens and leakage,
> finally the fifth was a hard short. The bottom /might/ be slightly
> rounded compared to the others, but the rubber plug vent had not
> ruptured. My nose tells me the smell was actually coming from one
> of the
> potted input chokes at the rear entrance. Everything else checked out
> since I hadn't kept trying it long enough to burn up the chokes or
> rectifiers. The caps were made in 1979 but all except the failed
> one are
> working perfectly. Looks like they either didn't need reforming, or
> survived the sudden application of 160 volts after years of lying
> dormant.
>
> Just for fun, I decided to see if I could blow the shorted cap clear
> with my 28 volt BFPS (on a variac, not wide-open!). I applied DC
> current
> up to 90 amps and it was still a very very low resistance short. I
> quit
> before it could rupture ;) It just seems like an odd failure
> mechanism,
> more like a transistor "punch-through" than an electrolytic that more
> typically draws excessive leakage current, gets hot, blows the
> vent, etc.
>
> Anyhow, the supply now runs fine with five instead of six caps (given
> electrolytic tolerances of the day, it's probably still in spec) so I
> put it back together and ran it for a while with a couple of light
> bulbs
> for a load. No further magic smoke escaping. I can get a
> replacement cap
> for $9 plus postage at Surplus Sales if I feel the need.
>
> -Charles
>
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