[Boatanchors] Crystal Holder Pressure
Brian Harris
cosmophone at yahoo.com
Sat Jan 5 11:12:52 EST 2019
I have an extensive collection of Bliley VF-1 and VF-2 crystals for 80 and 40 meters. They work well and their dial calibration is reasonably accurate. You can increase the frequency about 8KC on the 80 meter crystals and 11 KC on the 40 meter versions.
Brian WA5UEK
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> On Jan 5, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Bry Carling <af4k at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> That is very interesting, Gary!
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> I wonder what you used to check the frequency?
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> Of course these crystals were probably in an oven too right?
> Nothing like what most radio amateurs have ever used hi hi!
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> I remember hanging out at WFOM Marietta, GA in the late 1960s and chatted quite a bit wit he ENhgineer who was a full time employee I believe. I could be wrong but he was there at the station a lot. It was a 1000 watt local AM station on 1230 kHz. He would take and log a LOT of meter readings and antenna measurements. Occasionally they would take the station off the air for a few seconds to make some measurement or adjustment. I forget what that was now. Interesting times, to say the least. I am glad I lived in the 1960s!
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> 73 - Bry AF4K
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> From: boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net <boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Gary Peterson <kzerocx at rap.midco.net>
> Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 17:30
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> Subject: [Boatanchors] Crystal Holder Pressure
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> Around 50 years ago, I was responsible for maintaining a Collins 300G, licensed as an auxiliary transmitter. The FCC required that it be tested, weekly. We also checked the frequency, monthly, via a frequency measuring service in Lee’s Summit, MO. The 300G had two separate crystal oscillators, with ovens and crystals.
> Each crystal was mounted in a brass and ceramic cylinder with a screw-in pressure plate. Coarse frequency adjustments were made with the adjustable pressure on the quartz blank. Fine adjustments were made with a variable capacitor. Getting the frequency close (plus or minus 20 cps) with the pressure adjustment was a real challenge. Once close, adjusting the capacitor was a piece of cake. I don’t know what cut-type the crystal was. Maybe some cuts are more sensitive to pressure than others. I do know that some cuts have much smaller temperature coefficients.
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> Gary
> KzeroCX
> Old BC engineer, somewhat retired
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> It;s interesting. I have been dissecting various crystals for many years.
> Especially the FT243 ones.
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> You woul dbe amazed at HOW many different internal designs there are!
> The SPRINGS have a HUGE variety. Th epressures must be ALL over the map. Not only from the spring but MANY other factors. That being said. You can move a blank from one crystaol holder to another without much change in frequency with spring pressure etc.
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> What seems to have REALLY put the whammy on older crystals was to put a SCREW through the front of the top plate and start stressing the quartz crystal with it. This was a technique used by Bliley and others who would commercially supply these monstrosities to hams so they could VXO their quartz crystals I understand that this owuld quite often bring a very sad look to Junior's face whenever he would try to VXO "Too Far" in the hopes of working that "Rare One!!" Of course some guys made their own too, by drilling and tapping a hole. Not as fancy looking as the commercial ones in appearance. Probably equally disastrous results for many(!)
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> Bry AF4K
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