[Boatanchors] All Good Things

Bry Carling AF4K bcarling at cfl.rr.com
Tue Dec 15 08:32:14 EST 2015


Hi Nick,

No idea. I am not the expert. I just know what it can do, and I have downloaded a vast trove 
of manuals that are not available anywhere else including BAMA.

I think we have beaten this thread to death. To each his own. Live and let live.

YMMV - usual disclaimers.

73 de AF4K, Bry Carling

On 15 Dec 2015 at 8:18, Nick England wrote:
 
> Thanks Bry. Good to know. Can I also easily locate an old discussion thread about HQ-170 
> alignment? Can I easily save an interesting thread to my computer for later reference? 
> Nick
> 
> On Tuesday, December 15, 2015, Bry Carling AF4K < bcarling at cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>     Yes Nick, Facebook can do that.
>     
>     Take for example the Ham Radio Repairs Group on facebook, which has a MASSIVE
>     repository of radio manuals available for easy downloading.
>     
>     https://www.facebook.com/groups/hamradiorepair/
>     
>     On 15 Dec 2015 at 7:55, Nick England wrote:
>     
>     > Eugene makes a good point about "outreach". But I still haven't heard that
>     > FB can serve as an organized searchable archive rather than a
>     > stream-of-consciousness conversation. FB would be fine for the kind of
>     > discussion we are having now, but what about retrieving the HQ-170
>     > alignment discussion from 2 years ago? Now you can either search the
>     > archive or retrieve the mail I saved in my Hammarlund folder 2 years
>     > ago That archive of useful info is a great value about these lists. Can FB
>     > provide a similar
>     >
>     > On Monday, December 14, 2015, W2HX <w2hx at w2hx.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Grant is, of course, correct here. Let me state, I too hate facebook. But
>     > > let me point out that if our hobbies such as BA gear, milsurplus gear,
>     > > teletypes, etc are to ever stretch to the next generation, you may not want
>     > > to bury it deep in the bowels of "older" technology, which we all agree
>     > > works fine for all us old geezers.
>     > >
>     > > Of course, there is no law stating that these hobbies must be adopted by
>     > > the next generation. It could all die along with the last standing BA list
>     > > member. But beside a pecuniary interest of having another generation to buy
>     > > the gear we own when we are in our "winding down" phase of collecting, I
>     > > think there is something here of value to the younger generations. I may be
>     > > wrong.
>     > >
>     > > But if there is something of value, if there is any benefit to preserving
>     > > the knowledge accumulated in these lists over the years, it would be a
>     > > shame for it all to be hidden in the "microfiche" of 1990's email
>     > > reflectors that no one will ever see, find or know how to access in another
>     > > 10 or maybe 20 years.  I am sure there is tons of really unique knowledge
>     > > stored in millions of miles of microfilm that doesn't exist anywhere else
>     > > in the world. But I sure prefer to google something than to dig around in
>     > > microfilm. And the next generation will never know what a microfiche is,
>     > > let alone ever attempt to use one. So that knowledge is essentially lost.
>     > >
>     > > If these lists were run like a business where survival is paramount, and
>     > > being where the customers are was important, I would bet they'd be moving
>     > > to facebook post haste.
>     > >
>     > > So while we may all dislike FB, like it or not, that is where the vast
>     > > majority of people are today, and where these hobbies would likely find the
>     > > next generation of collectors/practitioners.  It reminds me of the story of
>     > > the shop owner who had a store on the old Route 66 and wondered why no one
>     > > buys his wares anymore since the highway was built.
>     > >
>     > > </flame retardant suit donned> But remember, I too hate facebook!
>     > >
>     > > 73 Eugene W2HX
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > -----Original Message-----
>     > > From: Boatanchors [mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>     > > <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman
>     > > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 2:20 PM
>     > > To: rbethman
>     > > Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net <javascript:;>
>     > > Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] All Good Things
>     > >
>     > > Methinks some of you just didn't bother to open the settings and security
>     > > tabs.
>     > >
>     > > You can keep the morons out. You can control who's posts you see. You
>     > > don't have to get notifications. FB Groups can be restricted and even
>     > > "private" (invitation only). You don't have to share your life history.
>     > > You can be SELECTIVE.
>     > >
>     > > I don't see FB ever as a replacement for a moderated reflector. But it
>     > > isn't the root of all evil, deserving of hell fire and damnation,  either.
>     > > It does take knowing how to use it -- which is a lot easier than getting
>     > > all 47 pieces of software doing some esoteric digital mode and fully
>     > > automatic contesting/logging running with a radio-on-a-chip-peripheral
>     > > plugged into a shiny new laptop driving 4 screens.
>     > >
>     > > Grant NQ5T
>     > >
>     > > Sent from my iPhone
>     > >
>     > > > On Dec 14, 2015, at 11:57 AM, rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net
>     > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
>     > > >
>     > > > I have to go with the same view.
>     > > >
>     > > > I tried Facebook just to attempt to keep in touch with family.
>     > > >
>     > > > What a disaster!  Nothing but notifications, even when someone posted,
>     > > "Me too!".
>     > > >
>     > > >
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