[Boatanchors] Amp Supply LK500-ZC Amplifier Question
WA5CAB--- via Boatanchors
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Mon Aug 3 12:22:32 EDT 2015
Sorry again, but again no. It's only a matter of terminolgy but the DC
value is the average, period.
Robert Downs - Houston
wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
MVPA 9480
In a message dated 08/02/2015 23:54:59 PM Central Daylight Time,
jwiley at gci.net writes:
> Au contraire, mon ami:
>
> While a DC voltage can vary in magnitude from a few microvolts or even
> picovolts to many hundreds of kilovolts (or more), it is still DC. Nowhere
> does it say that a DC voltage has to remain constant in amplitude for it to
> classified as DC. Unless and until it reverses polarity, no matter how
> briefly, or ceases to flow altogether, it is still DC.
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
>
>
>
> On 8/2/2015 8:29 PM, WA5CAB at cs.com wrote:
>
> >> I'm sorry, but the phrase "DC Peak" is a contradiction in terms. DC is
>> forever. Or at least many half cycles.
>>
>> In a message dated 08/02/2015 23:11:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
>> jwiley at gci.net writes:
>> >>>
>>> Actually, there is another way, and in my opinion, better:
>>>
>>> No filter capacitor at all, but instead 2 diodes, one connected as a
>>> "half-wave" rectifier, in the normal manner, with the other across the
>>> relay coil, connected so as to absorb the "reverse EMF" generated by the
>>> collapsing magnetic field.
>>>
>>> This configuration works because the current created by the collapsing
>>> field, shunted through the diode across the field, maintains the field
>>> until the next half cycle of the driving voltage arrives.
>>>
>>> Because the half-wave rectifier generates almost 18 volts of peak DC
>>> from a 12.6 VAC source, or 28.3 volts DC peak from a 20 VAC source, either
>>> should be enough to activate a 24-volt (nominal) DC relay.
>>>
>>> In a practical sense, it is helpful to remember that it takes much less
>>> magnetic field strength to hold a relay closed than is required to
>>> initiate closure.
>>>
>>> Also, the 2-diode configuration is much less expensive (parts wise) than
>>> the diode plus electrolytic capacitor, and it has the advantage of not
>>> having to worry about the capacitor drying out at some future date.
>>>
>>> Parts budget: 2 diodes (1N4007) between 1.1 and 20 cents each,
>>> depending on initial quantity purchased, vs, 1 diode plus one capacitor: 60 cents
>>> to perhaps a dollar or more. Since many hams find purchases of 1N4007
>>> diodes in 1000 quantities (about $11 worth) makes sense, the 2-diode
>>> approach becomes a more practical alternative.
>>>
>>> - Jim, KL7CC
>>
>
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