I screwed up and made a post public that I really intended to reply directly. I indeed DO owe a sincere and a *very* public apology to Bill O'Brien. He is the one that was the "object" of my unintended posting. I indeed do realize that I have really fouled up. I owe this list a *very* public and humble apology. Sincerely, with regards, Robert "Bob" Bethman N0DGN