[Boatanchors] [vmars] Re: Members requesting documents.

[J. Forster]

Mike,

The FACT is, I cannot access MY OWN documents on that site.

The message I forwarded was written by the Group Owner, and forwarded to
me by someone for my interest.

The plaint that people are joining the Group in question ONLY to access
the documents is RIDICULOUS, given that the archive is ONLY only really
open to Group members. The thinmg is logical (and other kinds) of
nonsense.

The Group in question is hoarding Public Domain documents, and only doling
them out to those willing to jump through hoops.

This is NOT good for the hobby. It is the only purportedly 'free' manual
site with these requirements.

To me FREE MEANS FREE. Period.

-John

Group Moderator

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> John
>
> Regretfully I do not agree with you at all (although I do have some
> reservations, that is all)
>
> The service is EXCELLENT and FREE to EVERYBODY, but one does have to
> read the way it works carefully.
>
> PLEASE lets not start another flame war, let the subject drop - a small
> handful of people have an "axe to grind"  (and in fairness to them also,
> they may not have been well treated at some point in time, BUT we HAVE
> TO move on)
>
> Cheers
>
> Mike B
>
> On 09/06/2013 23:37, J. Forster wrote:
>>
>> This was received from a very prominent person in the vintage Mil radio
>> circles.
>>
>> I believe it is very typical of those running the Group in question.
>> IMO,
>> the fault is with the Group Owner and (maybe) Moderator(s), and his
>> IDIOTIC policies, not the members in question.
>>
>> I would suggest anyone considering providing any information to that
>> Group, as a public service, carefully consider whether it will, in fact,
>> be readily available. I believe that archive, WHICH I HELPED FOUND, and
>> sitll has hundreds of my documents and other material, is NOT in the
>> hobby's interest.
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ======================
>>
>> > Hey, I have read less intelligent questions in that group...when I
>> read
>> > it, which isn't very often...
>> >
>> > On 6/9/2013 6:08 PM, Wireless-Set-No19-owner at yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:Wireless-Set-No19-owner%40yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> >> We are getting a little concerned that Membership of this Group may
>> be
>> >> seen by some solely as a means of gaining access to the Document
>> >> Archive. This is not what was originally envisaged; it was intended
>> that
>> >> (all) members would from time to time participate in the various
>> >> technical discussions that arise.
>> >>
>> >> There are a number of individuals who make download requests from
>> time
>> >> to time but who have never contributed to any discussion over a
>> period
>> >> of some years, and in some cases have never submitted a posting at
>> all.
>> >>
>> >> Clearly it would be ridiculous to expect every member to take part in
>> >> every discussion that arises, and that is not what we expect. At the
>> >> same time we are becoming apprehensive that there are some members
>> whose
>> >> sole reason for joining was to obtain downloads, and we are
>> beginning to
>> >> see this as an abuse of membership.
>> >>
>> >> For those who realise that they might be in the category identified
>> >> above we would ask a couple of questions: (1) do you never have any
>> >> queries that other members might be able to help resolve, and (2)
>> where
>> >> others raise questions do you never have any information that would
>> help
>> >> them find the right answers?
>> >>
>> >> We want to encourage "silent" members to be more active on the Group,
>> >> and we may consider limiting the number of downloads available to
>> >> members who show no inclination to take part in Group discussions.
>> >>
>> >> Group Moderators.
>> >
>> >
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