[Boatanchors] OT Another Harbor Freight Bargain

Ron Trepka w8ron at sbcglobal.net
Fri Feb 25 12:59:39 EST 2011


NOT SO and I know about CFLs.

Before you cast comments about a concept you might want to sort out the facts.

I was directly involved with the release of a CFL from a well knows US manufacture.

I cooked them , shook them life tested and put them into an EMC/EMI chamber.
Yes , they make noise and so does your switch mode power supply but if it carries a CE certification , you are pretty safe to not interfere with other devices and if they do , it is possible to quiet the system down.

If designed correctly , CFL are a great deal for lighting and power consumption. .... lets see.... the industry has been running florescent lamps for 50 years  with good results.

I have been running quality CFLs  for the last 20 years and only now have I seen some end of life failures.

You trouble stem from buying a $2 lamp.  Good quality CFL will run about $20 each. 

I have never needed to purchase any CFLs but I have run a few that came to me and you are ABSOLUTELY correct that the China stuff is complete junk, makes noise and has the life of a fruit fly.

NOT ALL CFLs ARE THE SAME.
---
Ron



--- On Fri, 2/25/11, W4AWM at aol.com <W4AWM at aol.com> wrote:

From: W4AWM at aol.com <W4AWM at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] OT Another Harbor Freight Bargain
To: gordon.beattie at att.net, w8ron at sbcglobal.net, boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 10:14 AM



 

CFLs are a total crock!  Not only do they cause all kinds of QRM on 
nearly all frequencies but the guarantee on them is a total scam.  The 
manufacturers never expect anyone to save all the sales slips along with dates 
of purchase and specific manufacturer in order to get warranty replacement. My 
feeling is that Uncle Sam is trying to pull another one on the public while 
giving more money to the Chinese economy.
 
73,
 
John,  W4AWM
 
 
 
 
 
 

In a message dated 2/25/2011 9:35:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
gordon.beattie at att.net writes:
Ron,
Interesting observation about the CFLs.  I just haven't 
  used them enough to
have them actually fail!

Thanks & 
  73,
Gordon Beattie, W2TTT
201.314.6964

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  On Behalf Of Ron Trepka
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 1:13 PM
To: 
  boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] OT Another Harbor 
  Freight Bargain

Comments about the HF solar Panels

The charge 
  controller works well where it gets off the battery when it has
reached 
  it's limit.
The little voltage display is real nice and turning it off is a 
  great idea
too.
The CFLs are junk.  They use a instant start 
  ballast with a rapid start lamp
so it eats the filaments away during start 
  and life was very short.

It would be hard to beat the $50 each price 
  for the three solar panels so
it's a bargan at the $159 
  price.
---
Ron



--- On Fri, 2/25/11, J. Gordon Beattie, 
  Jr., W2TTT <gordon.beattie at att.net>
wrote:

From: J. Gordon 
  Beattie, Jr., W2TTT <gordon.beattie at att.net>
Subject: RE: 
  [Boatanchors] OT Another Harbor Freight Bargain
To: "'Ron Trepka'" 
  <w8ron at sbcglobal.net>, "'John Flood'" 
  <kb1fqg at yahoo.com>,
boatanchors at mailman.qth.net, 
  r-390 at mailman.qth.net, "'Bob Peters'"
<rwpeters at swbell.net>
Date: 
  Friday, February 25, 2011, 12:08 AM

Ron, John, Bob et al,

I have 
  two of these kits and they work really well!  In a fully sunny 
  day,
you get the rated output, but there are times when you won't.  
  This is to be
expected.  The charge controller is very good with 
  several output voltages
less than 12V including a USB charger port.  
  It has no capability to prevent
the overcharge of your battery bank, so if 
  you are not going to be keeping a
close eye on the charge level of the 
  battery bank, you will need to get
another charge controller.  
  

What we do is use two sets in parallel to charge a 155AH deep cycle 
  12V
battery while in camp.  This keeps the battery topped up during a 
  weekend or
during a week or two at summer camp.  At the National Boy 
  Scout Jamboree
last summer we had to keep a pile of phones, four laptops 
  and an Amateur
Radio Station going.  We did have one day when we had 
  to be wise about our
power budget, but it all worked out fine by the next 
  day, and all essential
items received a full charge.  We even ran a 
  few of the included 5W 12V CFL
lamps in our gateway entrance area for 
  safety and site identification.  We
located the two 4x4 ft mounts on 
  wooden shelving to keep the supplied metal
frames in alignment and placed 
  them into spots within our gateway where they
could get light and be out of 
  the way.  

We are going to redo the frames using aluminum angle 
  stock from a local home
center and eliminate the cheap steel originally 
  provided.  

One other improvement that we are working on is to 
  replace the very light
gauge, high-resistance wiring with some number 12 
  wire and Anderson
PowerPole connectors.  Given our use, I'm not sure 
  if we are going to
replace the charge controller, but time will 
  tell.

Thanks & 73,
Gordon Beattie, 
  W2TTT
201.314.6964


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