[Boatanchors] Media Mail and the USPS boxes.

sdaitch at kuw.ibb.gov sdaitch at kuw.ibb.gov
Sun Sep 12 16:02:59 EDT 2010


I suppose one issue with the current Priority boxes is 
that they are distinctive in color markings and no matter
what side is visible, well, except for the bottom, it is
evident that it is a Priority mail shipment.  

The USPS buys miles of the Priority tape, so the boxes
could easily be used, as you indicate.

A suggestion to the Postal folks?

73
Sheldon


----- Original Message -----
From: Carl <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Media Mail and the USPS boxes.
> If the USPS wanted to actually do something intelligent then they 
> should 
> allow the free boxes to go by any method, simply affix the proper 
> sticker. 
> They would then attract more users away from UPS and FedWrex due 
> to the 
> convenience. 
> 
> Also keep the postage competitive by laying off the non productive 
> overhead 
> that thinks up all the new rules and paperwork. 
> 
> Carl 
> KM1H 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <sdaitch at kuw.ibb.gov> 
> To: <jfor at quik.com> 
> Cc: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>; "Kim Herron" 
> <kim.herron at sbcglobal.net>Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:01 PM 
> Subject: [Boatanchors] Media Mail and the USPS boxes. 
> 
> 
> > If the only thing the USPS was collecting was the 20 cents for the 
> > cardboard box, maybe so. And, yes, there are certain weight and 
> zone> categories where PP and Priority mail are very close in 
> price. In fact, 
> > at the low end of the weight chart, PP and Priority are only 
> five cents 
> > apart. 
> > 
> > Years back, the PP and Priority rates for zone 8, under 17 pounds, 
> > considering the non-machinable charge, it was actually cheaper to 
> > use Priority rates than PP. 
> > 
> > I suspect in the typical mail sorting facility, more than one 
> misused box 
> > is found every hour. At some point, it might really cost more 
> to have 
> > the postal inspectors involved than for the USPS to eat the cost 
> of 
> > misused 
> > boxes. On the other hand, if there were no oversight, and I 
> will grant, 
> > the 
> > counter clerks should be screening this at the time of mail 
> acceptance, 
> > but 
> > apparently enough slip by, without the mail stream inspections, 
> the abuse 
> > of 
> > USPS boxes would go way up. Perhaps the solution is to allow 
> the boxes to 
> > be used and simply imbed those costs in the newer rates. 
> > 
> > The real concern, as I understood Kim's earlier response was the 
> abuse of 
> > Media Mail for contents which don't remotely resemble authorized 
> content 
> > for 
> > the discount rate. I do agree that the DMM should be revised to 
> allow 
> > printed 
> > content with advertising provided that advertising is at least 
> XXX years 
> > old. 
> > 
> > Even then, I suspect there will be some folks who decide to 
> skirt the 
> > regs on 
> > how old the magazines are in a shipment, to save a few bucks on 
> shipping.> 
> > 73 
> > Sheldon 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com> 
> > Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 9:16 pm 
> > Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Media Mail, trying again. 
> > 
> >> If you compare PP and Priority rates, in many cases the 
> difference is 
> >> pennies, unless you are shipping boxes of bricks. 
> >> 
> >> To have a $25/hour Postal Inspector worrying about misuse of a 
> >> $0.20 box 
> >> is ludicrous. 
> >> 
> >> -John 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
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