[Boatanchors] 73 Magazine pdf files

[Carl]

Well said Bob.  I have to laugh at the responders on here who come off Oh So 
Sanctmonious; Id love to have a private detective monitor their hypocritical 
daily lives.

Carl
KM1H




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Peters" <rwpeters at swbell.net>
To: "'Glen Zook'" <gzook at yahoo.com>; "'Francesco Ledda'" 
<frledda at verizon.net>; "'KA1KAQTodd'" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
Cc: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] 73 Magazine pdf files


> You know what Guys I read all this copyright crap and that is all it is is
> crap...I work and my living is made in Copyright Music... We sell Music to
> restaurants, Retail stores ect ect. Since the beginning of IPOD's and 
> Music
> on the Internet our business has diminished a great deal. Do the FEDS GET
> INVOLVED No and Hell no. Do the Copyright agencies like ASCAP AND BMI try 
> to
> do anything... Yes if it means BIG BIG money like Napster did...Do they 
> get
> involved with a restaurant playing music...NOPE... The music industry has
> pretty much given up on law suits ect and just sell their stuff on 
> Internet
> cheap...That is why this thread means nothing at all... People that think
> they are going to stop Copyright Infringement need to take a look at the 
> big
> picture Look at the TIVO/Dish net Patent infringement...Over 10 mil spent 
> to
> date in litigation  No one wins except the Attorneys in both Copyright and
> patent infringement...
>
> Bob W1PE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Glen Zook
> Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 10:54 AM
> To: Francesco Ledda; KA1KAQTodd
> Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] 73 Magazine pdf files
>
> There is no violation of the copyright law if ORIGINAL items are sold,
> traded, given away, etc.  Used book stores are selling ORIGINAL items, not
> illegal copies.  The name of the law itself says it all:  Copy right.  The
> copyright law comes into effect when COPIES of the original material are
> made.  If you are dealing with an original printing (etc.) item then you 
> may
> distribute that item as you wish.  But, it is illegal to make additional
> copies of the material without the express permission of the copyright
> holder if the copyright is still in effect.
>
> Once an item has passed into public domain then the copyright law does not
> apply and you can copy, distribute, and so forth, the material at will.
>
> I realize that the number of persons holding active copyrights versus the
> general amateur radio population is a very small ratio.  Since amateur 
> radio
> operators do have a reputation for being "cheap" I can also see why many
> operators are encouraging violating the copyright law so that they can
> obtain copyrighted material at a very low cost, even free.  However, that
> does not make unauthorized copying of copyrighted material right.
>
> As I have said before, I definitely allow virtually all of the articles,
> etc., on which I hold copyrights to be reproduced by other amateur radio
> operators so long as there is no charge for the material and that I 
> receive
> a copy of the publication in which my material is reproduced.  But, if
> someone is charging for the publication, etc., in which my copyrighted
> material is appearing then I rightfully expect to receive compensation for
> use of my material.  A person who reproduces copyrighted material without
> the express permission of the copyright holder is basically "stealing" the
> material.  That person is benefiting from the work of others without
> compensation.
>
> I also realize that this discussion is going nowhere.  Basically, it is 
> very
> similar to the "not in my backyard" mind frame.  That is, so long as "I" 
> am
> not being affected then the practice is fine.  However, if "I" am being
> affected financially, etc., then things are different.  It just happens
> that, since I do hold active copyrights, I am affected by violations of 
> the
> copyright law!
>
> Glen, K9STH
>
> Website:  http://k9sth.com
>
>
> --- On Sun, 5/16/10, Todd, KA1KAQ <ka1kaq at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> No more so than a used bookstore does. Yet they (used or old book stores)
> seem to sell copyrighted material daily without compensating the original
> authors or anyone beyond themselves. I guess all of the people selling
> complete years of the original QST, CQ, 73, or Ham Radio magazines must be
> breaking the law too. Especially if someone gave them the magazines.
>
> As has been pointed out by several, it's a pretty ridiculous thread over
> something so benign. But like so many other issues in amateur radio today,
> more and more seems to be based in feeding someone's ego and less in
> providing a helping hand to the amateur community.
>
>
>
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