[Boatanchors] Fw: Boatanchors Digest, Vol 74, Issue 24
Henry Mei'l's
meils at get2net.dk
Wed Mar 17 10:19:20 EDT 2010
(this might be duplication - my PC is doing strange things)
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From: "Henry Mei'l's" <meils at get2net.dk>
To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: Boatanchors Digest, Vol 74, Issue 24
> Talking about ground conductivit:
.
> In NYC, back in the 50's, I remember runninng my TCS twins on 40 mtr AM
> (abt. 50 watts) into a 1/4 wave vertical with just a metal rod and about
> 30 ft of chickenwire fencing as ground.
>
> One April afternoon, there was a sudden rain downburst
> and lo an behold I made QSA 5 contact with several Florida stations,
> whereas before that I was lucky if I made it past NJ.
>
> This opening lasted for about ½ hour. I suppose I should have made some
> soil
resistance measurements for comparison.
I don't recall that this phenomenon also occurred during prolonged rain
falls.
> (could have been a freak ionosphere opening but it never happened in "dry"
> weather conditions.)
> Has anyone experimented with a water sprinkling system around a GP ant.?
I think I read somewhere that some commercial stations did or do just
that.
>
> HM -oz1uf, Cph.
>
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>> 1. Re: PARTING OUT (WA5CAB at cs.com)
>> 2. Re: Late model Heath SB-220 question (Carl)
>> 3. Re: PARTING OUT (David Stinson)
>> 4. Re: PARTING OUT (RAY FRIESS)
>> 5. Boatanchors] PARTING OUT (J ALLEN CALL)
>> 6. Re: PARTING OUT (Bill Cromwell)
>> 7. In need of a Heathkit choke... (W4AWM at aol.com)
>> 8. Re: PARTING OUT (rbethman)
>> 9. Power Tube Life Question (J. Forster)
>> 10. Re: The Bad Effects of Years of RF exposure (Rob Atkinson)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:23:54 EDT
>> From: WA5CAB at cs.com
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] PARTING OUT
>> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <75a7a.7881659f.38d15efa at cs.com>
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>> There's one other term in the Sell Whole or Part Out equation. Parting
>> out
>> may result in the preservation of several instead of just one perhaps not
>> too nice example. Applies to military as well as civilian sets.
>>
>> Robert Downs - Houston
>> wa5cab dot com (Web Store)
>> MVPA 9480
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:33:07 -0400
>> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Late model Heath SB-220 question
>> To: <Wa4uso at aol.com>
>> Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <01ee01cac558$a8d425f0$6501a8c0 at DAVES>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=original
>>
>> SB-220's have the input coils up front behind the panel and all had 10M
>> as
>> well as a bandswitch panel marking.
>>
>> The SB-221 did not have a 10M indicator on the panel marking. Some built
>> by
>> Heath stores had 10M, others required a parts kit.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "rbethman" <rbethman at comcast.net>
>> To: <Wa4uso at aol.com>
>> Cc: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Late model Heath SB-220 question
>>
>>
>>> Darrell,
>>>
>>> Look on the rear of the amp where the tuned inputs are.
>>>
>>> If one of the holes is empty, the 10 mtr mod isn't there!
>>>
>>> Bob - N0DGN
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2010 6:07 PM, Wa4uso at aol.com wrote:
>>>> I have pulled a late model Heath SB-220 out of storage for possible
>>>> use.
>>>> I
>>>> have not done a lot of research on this model, but how can I tell
>>>> (without
>>>> powering the amp up) if the 10 meter kit has been installed. Your
>>>> comments
>>>> are appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> 73 de WA4USO Darrell Darby
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:33:31 -0500
>> From: "David Stinson" <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] PARTING OUT
>> To: "boatanchors" <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
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>>
>> While I don't advocate parting working rigs,
>> there is also this to consider:
>>
>> A "whole" rig makes one person happy.
>> A "parted-out" rig makes a bunch of people happy.
>> I was very glad someone parted a TR-7 Drake, because
>> I fixed two of mine with the boards.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:01:05 -0600
>> From: RAY FRIESS <rayfrijr at msn.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] PARTING OUT
>> To: <rbethman at comcast.net>
>> Cc: boatanchors <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>> Message-ID: <BAY139-W19F981956DFF1E21970109CA2D0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob:
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally, I dont respond to such flaming about whatever decision I
>> choose to make about a piece of gear.
>>
>> That does not apply to those who offer their thoughts, as everyone here
>> has done, as long as the discussion is civil. We can agree to disagree
>> about a course of action. We may think that someone is crazy for doing
>> something he or she did, but how
>>
>> often in our ham careers have we ended up with a piece of equipment
>> because of a decision by another ham that we thought
>>
>> was crazy and that we would NEVER have made that same decision ourselves?
>>
>>
>>
>> Those being nasty about whether to part out or not do not know anything
>> more about a rig than what I mention
>>
>> when I list it. It's sitting in my shack, not theirs. I've seen the
>> innards, they havent. I may have worked on it or fired it up, they
>> havent. They dont know the time constraints or change of desires that I
>> have in making the decision.
>>
>>
>>
>> "To each his own as Mrs. Murphy said as she kissed the cow goodnight." HI
>> HI
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I just reply to those who are interested in acquiring or discuss
>> civilly and just ignore the nasties. I've had my heart broken by other's
>> decisions and I imagine some have had their's broken by my decisions.
>> I mean, I've seen people say they have picked rigs out of trash heaps
>> sitting by the curb waiting for pickup and have restored them to
>> operating condition. The thought of tossing out a rig to the curbside
>> waiting for a Friday garbage pickup shocks my sensibilities .. but then,
>> I dont know and didnt see what the owner did that caused him to decide to
>> pitch it. That's life.. On the other hand, I have tossed boxes of
>> components after failing to find takers, so I can sympathize a bit when
>> it comes to a grander scale like a rig.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:18:02 -0400
>>> From: rbethman at comcast.net
>>> CC: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] PARTING OUT
>>>
>>> Ray,
>>>
>>> I'm very much like you.
>>>
>>> I too posted the earlier mentioned radios for a sell.
>>>
>>> Getting no buyer(s), I spoke about parting them out.
>>>
>>> I then began downright "nasty-grams".
>>>
>>> I just went through selling a Tx/Rx pair that had sat on the shelf for
>>> about 9 years. They were manufactured in 1970.
>>>
>>> The buyer sent multiple messages claiming that they were not as
>>> described. I had told him that WHEN they were taken from the operating
>>> position AND put on the shelf, they had no KNOWN issues.
>>>
>>> What would anyone expect with THAT description and open discussed
>>> history? Would anyone simply expect that they could simply plug them in
>>> and go?
>>>
>>> I know from my experience of equipment of that vintage, AND having sat
>>> unused on the shelf, that this was going to be a work in progress.
>>>
>>> I've sworn since then, that I will take any such items to our annual or
>>> semi-annual hazardous waste Day(s). Now if it has lead containing
>>> solder, it is hazardous waste.
>>>
>>> I'm just plain NOT going to get grief for several weeks over such!
>>>
>>> I do NOT need it! I have better things to do than respond to nonsense.
>>>
>>> Bob - N0DGN
>>>
>>> On 3/16/2010 6:04 PM, RAY FRIESS wrote:
>>> > I have had similar experiences with a couple of SB 400 transmitters.
>>> > They were in B A D shape. After making inquiries and getting to
>>> > takers, I opted to part them out.
>>> >
>>> > The selling price of the parts ... sum of the parts if you will ...
>>> > was more than what many complete (whole, working units) units brought
>>> > in some cases.
>>> >
>>> > That is easy to have happen when you can sell a case for 30 or 40
>>> > dollars to someone who wants one ... a single board ...
>>> >
>>> > a single crystal ... a set of knobs ... a set of tubes ... controls
>>> > ... all separately for a fair price.
>>> >
>>> > Have you priced an SB 400 escutcheon or dial mechanism lately? HI HI
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> In cases like this parting out makes sense. However, when someone
>>> >> parts out
>>> >> a reasonably good rig which could be placed back in working order
>>> >> with a bit
>>> >> of work I see red, as do many on this list. It uis unfortunate that
>>> >> greed
>>> >> prevails in the minds of some.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bill, VE3NH
>>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:01:09 +0000
>> From: J ALLEN CALL <w7ksg at q.com>
>> Subject: [Boatanchors] Boatanchors] PARTING OUT
>> To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>> Message-ID: <SNT127-W4318B9188DB9F380E4C46CFB2D0 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't know what all of fuss is about. If I have a piece of gear that I
>> want to part out it is nobodys business except my own.
>>
>>
>>
>> J
>>
>> W7KSG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:28:12 -0400
>> From: Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] PARTING OUT
>> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <1268782092.22184.5.camel at lancelot.workgroup>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> rbethman wrote:
>>
>> I got "nasty" messages from some members of a list when I proposed
>> parting out one Apache of unknown functionality, along with two Mohawks
>> with misc. issues.
>>
>> Since then, I don't even bother with broaching the topic.
>>
>> Some of us are fed up with self appointed "list Police".
>>
>> The equipment belongs to the owner. It is the Owner's decision as to
>> what they choose to do.
>>
>> Last I understood, that is the way things work.
>>
>> I "may" disagree with someone's decision, BUT it is THEIRS to make. It
>> is not ours!
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> It's unfortunate that you were treated like that. Before you bring terms
>> like "list police" to this thread, though, please remember the original
>> post *asked* if people would pay for the shipping. Some of us affirmed
>> that they would and that we would prefer to see usable radios
>> sold/traded/shipped intact. Nobody in the thread suggested that an owner
>> doesn't have the right to decide what to do. This particular owner
>> *asked*.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bill KU8H
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:55:14 EDT
>> From: W4AWM at aol.com
>> Subject: [Boatanchors] In need of a Heathkit choke...
>> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <b00f1.2bb339a9.38d15842 at aol.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>>
>>
>> When shipping these big rigs, consider the bus. Greyhound has very good
>> rates on the average and your package suffers much less handling and
>> fewer
>> conveyor belts which is where lots of shipping damage occurs. The only
>> downer
>> is that the shipper has to take the package to the bus station and you
>> have
>> to pick it up.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> John, W4AWM
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:42:31 -0400
>> From: rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] PARTING OUT
>> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>> Message-ID: <4BA01767.9070105 at comcast.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> I did NOT say it was THIS list.
>>
>> I thought that would have kept this from becoming an "issue" on this
>> list.
>>
>> I was NOT making accusations about This List, nor Anyone in THIS
>> discussion.
>>
>> *IF* I had intended to do such, I would have sent "direct" E-Mail to the
>> person that I had a problem with.
>>
>> To the list as a whole, I ask if there is anyone else whom took this a
>> directed to this list or themselves?
>>
>> I'm almost 60. I have my tendencies to be politically incorrect.
>> However, when I say my piece - I make it CLEAR! I do not play with
>> obfuscation.
>>
>> Bob - N0DGN
>>
>> On 3/16/2010 7:28 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
>>> rbethman wrote:
>>>
>>> I got "nasty" messages from some members of a list when I proposed
>>> parting out one Apache of unknown functionality, along with two Mohawks
>>> with misc. issues.
>>>
>>> Since then, I don't even bother with broaching the topic.
>>>
>>> Some of us are fed up with self appointed "list Police".
>>>
>>> The equipment belongs to the owner. It is the Owner's decision as to
>>> what they choose to do.
>>>
>>> Last I understood, that is the way things work.
>>>
>>> I "may" disagree with someone's decision, BUT it is THEIRS to make. It
>>> is not ours!
>>>
>>> Bob - N0DGN
>>>
>>> Hi Bob,
>>>
>>> It's unfortunate that you were treated like that. Before you bring terms
>>> like "list police" to this thread, though, please remember the original
>>> post *asked* if people would pay for the shipping. Some of us affirmed
>>> that they would and that we would prefer to see usable radios
>>> sold/traded/shipped intact. Nobody in the thread suggested that an owner
>>> doesn't have the right to decide what to do. This particular owner
>>> *asked*.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Bill KU8H
>>>
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>> --
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:43:13 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
>> Subject: [Boatanchors] Power Tube Life Question
>> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net, BOATANCHORS at LISTS.TEMPE.GOV,
>> milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
>> Cc: arc5 at mailman.qth.net, vmars at yahoogroups.com
>> Message-ID: <59470.12.6.201.2.1268786593.squirrel at popaccts.quik.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>> This relates to the 500 Watt audio power amplifier for the 1MC PA system
>> on the Massachusetts again.
>>
>> The amp uses 4 type 838 tubes, push-pull and parallel connected, with
>> directly heated cathodes (flaments) presumably Thoriated Tungsten,
>> although the RCA data sheet does not say specifically.
>>
>> Since the tubes are somewhat precious, I'd like to run them at reduced
>> filament voltage (maybe 5-10% less) to extend their life. However, I'm
>> concerned about loss of Gm and/or emission from prolonged operation with
>> the reduced voltage.
>>
>> The amp has separate plate and filament transformers, BTW.
>>
>> Can anyone provide some guidance, please?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ================
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:41:08 -0500
>> From: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] The Bad Effects of Years of RF exposure
>> To: Boat Anchors List <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>> Message-ID:
>> <d2bb1cb81003162041rf0990faw817f4eb0ecad355f at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> AZ desert ground conductivity stinks. If you have boat anchors you
>> have to have ground conductivity. Nothing else matters. The end.
>>
>> Rob
>> K5UJ
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:12 PM, <Troglodite at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> In a message dated 3/16/2010 10:25:56 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>>> n7rk at cox.net writes:
>>>
>>> Move to ?Arizona. We have become a Neanderthal state but we don't change
>>> the ?clocks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion! I was thinking recently about New Mexico, but
>>> Arizona is close enough!
>>
>>
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