[Boatanchors] Globe Chief
Henry Mei'l's
meils at get2net.dk
Tue Dec 14 16:27:43 EST 2010
I have an original (Myers) Globe Chief brochure, complete with diagram if
anyone would like a scan.
It was also one of my fist rigs and I enjoyed using it -- simple but rugged
and it never gave me any
trouble when using an xtal. or Command Set or TCS as VFO.
73, Henry OZ1UF / N2NR
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> 1. Wtd: Globe Chief 90A Parts (Bill Stewart)
> 2. Re: Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils (LEE BAHR)
> 3. Re: Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils (mac)
> 4. Re: Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils (mikea)
> 5. Re: Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils (Carl)
> 6. Re: Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils (LEE BAHR)
> 7. Re: Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils (LEE BAHR)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:32:35 -0500 (EST)
> From: Bill Stewart <cwopr at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: [Boatanchors] Wtd: Globe Chief 90A Parts
> To: boatanchors <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
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> Does anyone happen to have a decent front panel for the Globe Electronics
> version of the Globe Chief 90A. I am also looking for?the cabinet and
> a?working, clear, meter. Any replies, off list, will be appreciated...73
> de Bill K4JYS
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:15:54 -0600
> From: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
> To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <8148F849EC534854ACA57E068CC25F7B at LeePC>
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>
> As I mentioned earlier, the Lettine is a rats nest under the chassis.
> Everything needs to be replaced including the AC line cord. The
> transmitter
> was modified to include a changeover relay which is also in a rats nest
> fashion plus much of the cloth wiring looks like it could stand replacing.
> Combine this with the fact many of the tie points have no lugs but are
> just
> "free in the clear floating connections", I decided I will "strip the
> chassis down and start over.
>
> I ordered all new caps and resistors plus a 3 prong power cord yesterday
> from Mouser for the re-construction. Lettine placed some of the parts in
> some really strange places. Because of this, I am not sure I want to
> remove everything at once and then start over or just replace everything
> section by section. I am inclined to do it the later way as the wierd
> parts
> placement at times plus the lack of tie lugs, which I plan to add, lead me
> to believe I can keep parts placement closer to original specs if I do it
> section by section. I'll probably start with the power supply and then
> move
> on to the oscillator and then to the final. Once the RF is working, I'll
> move on the to audio input and modulator stages. The only problem doing
> the
> restoration this way is it is going to be harder replacing point to point
> wiring. (I think I need to take a few pictures of it as it now stands in
> case I run into trouble. I am a little nervous of using the BAMA manual
> as
> it was "re-drawn". (I already found three small mistakes in the BAMA
> re-drawn schematic).
>
> When ordering the new parts, I ordered much larger wattage resistors then
> the originals to make the new parts closer in size to the originals as
> many
> new parts of the same wattage are much smaller today. Instead of 8 mfd
> filtering I will have 16 mfd of power supply filtering.
>
> The plate choke and parasitic supressor as original are a real joke. I am
> seriously thinking of putting in a real multi-pi RF choke feeding the 807
> plate and also put in a more standard parasitic supressor on the plate
> lead.
>
> As it stands, this is a real complicated restoration when you consider
> this
> is a simple transmitter with not too many parts. The unorthodox layout,
> bad
> wiring job, lack of tie points and rotted wires all make the restoration
> difficult more difficult. Once restored, the bottom chassis will look
> very
> unencumbered and look like it was a piece of cake to restore.
>
> Then, comes the restoration of a plug in coil set for this transmitter.
> This is a "cool" kind of rare transmitter. If it were not for it's great
> outside appearance, the time spent restoring this transmitter could not be
> justified. When finished it will be a jewel, but you could never get your
> time and money out of it if you ever would want to part with it. I know
> this going into the restoration. As I mentioned earlier, a WRL Globe
> Scout
> 40A looks like a Collins internally compared to this rigs guts. The
> Lettine
> cabinet, front panel and transformers were all first class. From that
> point
> on it was all downhill.
>
> Lee, w0vt
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:23:37 -0800
> From: mac <w7qho at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
> To: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
> Cc: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
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> Hmmm........ Are you really sure this thing's worth the trouble?
>
> Dennis D. W7QHO
> Glendale, CA
>
> **************
>
> On Dec 14, 2010, at 11:15 AM, LEE BAHR wrote:
>
>> As I mentioned earlier, the Lettine is a rats nest under the chassis.
>> Everything needs to be replaced including the AC line cord. The
>> transmitter
>> was modified to include a changeover relay which is also in a rats
>> nest
>> fashion plus much of the cloth wiring looks like it could stand
>> replacing.
>> Combine this with the fact many of the tie points have no lugs........
> etc., etc., etc......
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 13:45:02 -0600
> From: mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
> To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID: <20101214194502.GD67498 at mikea.ath.cx>
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> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:23:37AM -0800, mac wrote:
>> Hmmm........ Are you really sure this thing's worth the trouble?
>
> Of course it's not, and he should just send it to you, or to me, right?
> ;=)
>
> Think of how neat it'll be to have it on the air again, all fixed up and
> the innards redone _right_.
>
> --
> Mike Andrews, W5EGO
> mikea at mikea.ath.cx
> Tired old sysadmin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:49:58 -0500
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
> To: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>,
> <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <011b01cb9bd0$7a854bd0$6401a8c0 at DAVES>
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>
> Ah, the infamous Latrine 240. I spent many afternoon and weekend hours as
> a
> HS student helping to assemble those TVI generators for a most nasty and
> ungrateful pair of owners. At least they were in my home town and I could
> ride the bike there in about 15 minutes. I quit after about 3 months and
> positively burnt the bridges behind me!
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
> To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
>
>
>> As I mentioned earlier, the Lettine is a rats nest under the chassis.
>> Everything needs to be replaced including the AC line cord. The
>> transmitter
>> was modified to include a changeover relay which is also in a rats nest
>> fashion plus much of the cloth wiring looks like it could stand
>> replacing.
>> Combine this with the fact many of the tie points have no lugs but are
>> just
>> "free in the clear floating connections", I decided I will "strip the
>> chassis down and start over.
>>
>> I ordered all new caps and resistors plus a 3 prong power cord yesterday
>> from Mouser for the re-construction. Lettine placed some of the parts in
>> some really strange places. Because of this, I am not sure I want to
>> remove everything at once and then start over or just replace everything
>> section by section. I am inclined to do it the later way as the wierd
>> parts
>> placement at times plus the lack of tie lugs, which I plan to add, lead
>> me
>> to believe I can keep parts placement closer to original specs if I do it
>> section by section. I'll probably start with the power supply and then
>> move
>> on to the oscillator and then to the final. Once the RF is working,
>> I'll
>> move on the to audio input and modulator stages. The only problem doing
>> the
>> restoration this way is it is going to be harder replacing point to point
>> wiring. (I think I need to take a few pictures of it as it now stands in
>> case I run into trouble. I am a little nervous of using the BAMA manual
>> as
>> it was "re-drawn". (I already found three small mistakes in the BAMA
>> re-drawn schematic).
>>
>> When ordering the new parts, I ordered much larger wattage resistors
>> then
>> the originals to make the new parts closer in size to the originals as
>> many
>> new parts of the same wattage are much smaller today. Instead of 8 mfd
>> filtering I will have 16 mfd of power supply filtering.
>>
>> The plate choke and parasitic supressor as original are a real joke. I
>> am
>> seriously thinking of putting in a real multi-pi RF choke feeding the 807
>> plate and also put in a more standard parasitic supressor on the plate
>> lead.
>>
>> As it stands, this is a real complicated restoration when you consider
>> this
>> is a simple transmitter with not too many parts. The unorthodox layout,
>> bad
>> wiring job, lack of tie points and rotted wires all make the restoration
>> difficult more difficult. Once restored, the bottom chassis will look
>> very
>> unencumbered and look like it was a piece of cake to restore.
>>
>> Then, comes the restoration of a plug in coil set for this transmitter.
>> This is a "cool" kind of rare transmitter. If it were not for it's great
>> outside appearance, the time spent restoring this transmitter could not
>> be
>> justified. When finished it will be a jewel, but you could never get
>> your
>> time and money out of it if you ever would want to part with it. I know
>> this going into the restoration. As I mentioned earlier, a WRL Globe
>> Scout
>> 40A looks like a Collins internally compared to this rigs guts. The
>> Lettine
>> cabinet, front panel and transformers were all first class. From that
>> point
>> on it was all downhill.
>>
>> Lee, w0vt
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:59:30 -0600
> From: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
> To: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>, <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <0B1FC7E86D284DB2BF88638E255901C8 at LeePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> So Carl, does this mean you were the crazy one who wired this puppy up?
> (I
> hope you have improved your wiring skills since then). I now know why
> they
> used galvanized steel chassis as they could solder a ground connection
> anywhere. Tie points? Who needs tie points! It looks like maybe they
> used
> a gutter company to manufacture their chassis.
>
> Do you know who owned Lettine? Maybe you could give some insight
> regarding
> the company and what is was like working there. Or maybe you don't want
> to
> relive that part of your life. (Might bring up nightmares).
>
> Lee, w0vt
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
> To: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>; <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
>
>
>> Ah, the infamous Latrine 240. I spent many afternoon and weekend hours as
>> a HS student helping to assemble those TVI generators for a most nasty
>> and
>> ungrateful pair of owners. At least they were in my home town and I could
>> ride the bike there in about 15 minutes. I quit after about 3 months and
>> positively burnt the bridges behind me!
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
>> To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
>>
>>
>>> As I mentioned earlier, the Lettine is a rats nest under the chassis.
>>> Everything needs to be replaced including the AC line cord. The
>>> transmitter
>>> was modified to include a changeover relay which is also in a rats nest
>>> fashion plus much of the cloth wiring looks like it could stand
>>> replacing.
>>> Combine this with the fact many of the tie points have no lugs but are
>>> just
>>> "free in the clear floating connections", I decided I will "strip the
>>> chassis down and start over.
>>>
>>> I ordered all new caps and resistors plus a 3 prong power cord yesterday
>>> from Mouser for the re-construction. Lettine placed some of the parts
>>> in
>>> some really strange places. Because of this, I am not sure I want to
>>> remove everything at once and then start over or just replace everything
>>> section by section. I am inclined to do it the later way as the wierd
>>> parts
>>> placement at times plus the lack of tie lugs, which I plan to add, lead
>>> me
>>> to believe I can keep parts placement closer to original specs if I do
>>> it
>>> section by section. I'll probably start with the power supply and then
>>> move
>>> on to the oscillator and then to the final. Once the RF is working,
>>> I'll
>>> move on the to audio input and modulator stages. The only problem doing
>>> the
>>> restoration this way is it is going to be harder replacing point to
>>> point
>>> wiring. (I think I need to take a few pictures of it as it now stands
>>> in
>>> case I run into trouble. I am a little nervous of using the BAMA manual
>>> as
>>> it was "re-drawn". (I already found three small mistakes in the BAMA
>>> re-drawn schematic).
>>>
>>> When ordering the new parts, I ordered much larger wattage resistors
>>> then
>>> the originals to make the new parts closer in size to the originals as
>>> many
>>> new parts of the same wattage are much smaller today. Instead of 8 mfd
>>> filtering I will have 16 mfd of power supply filtering.
>>>
>>> The plate choke and parasitic supressor as original are a real joke. I
>>> am
>>> seriously thinking of putting in a real multi-pi RF choke feeding the
>>> 807
>>> plate and also put in a more standard parasitic supressor on the plate
>>> lead.
>>>
>>> As it stands, this is a real complicated restoration when you consider
>>> this
>>> is a simple transmitter with not too many parts. The unorthodox layout,
>>> bad
>>> wiring job, lack of tie points and rotted wires all make the restoration
>>> difficult more difficult. Once restored, the bottom chassis will look
>>> very
>>> unencumbered and look like it was a piece of cake to restore.
>>>
>>> Then, comes the restoration of a plug in coil set for this transmitter.
>>> This is a "cool" kind of rare transmitter. If it were not for it's
>>> great
>>> outside appearance, the time spent restoring this transmitter could not
>>> be
>>> justified. When finished it will be a jewel, but you could never get
>>> your
>>> time and money out of it if you ever would want to part with it. I know
>>> this going into the restoration. As I mentioned earlier, a WRL Globe
>>> Scout
>>> 40A looks like a Collins internally compared to this rigs guts. The
>>> Lettine
>>> cabinet, front panel and transformers were all first class. From that
>>> point
>>> on it was all downhill.
>>>
>>> Lee, w0vt
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 15:04:56 -0600
> From: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
> To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
> Message-ID: <77E4D816FF7F427C87EA6FD444CD7B76 at LeePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Carl:
>
> What kind of building did they use to construct the Lettine 240? Or , did
> they build them in a cave? If I didn't know better, I would have
> suspected
> Mad Man Muntz built this thing. RF chokes? Who needs RF chokes!
>
> Lee, w0vt
>>
>>
>>
>>> Ah, the infamous Latrine 240. I spent many afternoon and weekend hours
>>> as
>>> a HS student helping to assemble those TVI generators for a most nasty
>>> and
>>> ungrateful pair of owners. At least they were in my home town and I
>>> could
>>> ride the bike there in about 15 minutes. I quit after about 3 months and
>>> positively burnt the bridges behind me!
>>>
>>> Carl
>>> KM1H
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "LEE BAHR" <pulsarxp at embarqmail.com>
>>> To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:15 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Lettine 240 Transmitter Plug In Coils
>>>
>>>
>>>> As I mentioned earlier, the Lettine is a rats nest under the chassis.
>>>> Everything needs to be replaced including the AC line cord. The
>>>> transmitter
>>>> was modified to include a changeover relay which is also in a rats nest
>>>> fashion plus much of the cloth wiring looks like it could stand
>>>> replacing.
>>>> Combine this with the fact many of the tie points have no lugs but are
>>>> just
>>>> "free in the clear floating connections", I decided I will "strip the
>>>> chassis down and start over.
>>>>
>>>> I ordered all new caps and resistors plus a 3 prong power cord
>>>> yesterday
>>>> from Mouser for the re-construction. Lettine placed some of the parts
>>>> in
>>>> some really strange places. Because of this, I am not sure I want to
>>>> remove everything at once and then start over or just replace
>>>> everything
>>>> section by section. I am inclined to do it the later way as the wierd
>>>> parts
>>>> placement at times plus the lack of tie lugs, which I plan to add, lead
>>>> me
>>>> to believe I can keep parts placement closer to original specs if I do
>>>> it
>>>> section by section. I'll probably start with the power supply and then
>>>> move
>>>> on to the oscillator and then to the final. Once the RF is working,
>>>> I'll
>>>> move on the to audio input and modulator stages. The only problem
>>>> doing
>>>> the
>>>> restoration this way is it is going to be harder replacing point to
>>>> point
>>>> wiring. (I think I need to take a few pictures of it as it now stands
>>>> in
>>>> case I run into trouble. I am a little nervous of using the BAMA
>>>> manual
>>>> as
>>>> it was "re-drawn". (I already found three small mistakes in the BAMA
>>>> re-drawn schematic).
>>>>
>>>> When ordering the new parts, I ordered much larger wattage resistors
>>>> then
>>>> the originals to make the new parts closer in size to the originals as
>>>> many
>>>> new parts of the same wattage are much smaller today. Instead of 8 mfd
>>>> filtering I will have 16 mfd of power supply filtering.
>>>>
>>>> The plate choke and parasitic supressor as original are a real joke. I
>>>> am
>>>> seriously thinking of putting in a real multi-pi RF choke feeding the
>>>> 807
>>>> plate and also put in a more standard parasitic supressor on the plate
>>>> lead.
>>>>
>>>> As it stands, this is a real complicated restoration when you consider
>>>> this
>>>> is a simple transmitter with not too many parts. The unorthodox
>>>> layout,
>>>> bad
>>>> wiring job, lack of tie points and rotted wires all make the
>>>> restoration
>>>> difficult more difficult. Once restored, the bottom chassis will look
>>>> very
>>>> unencumbered and look like it was a piece of cake to restore.
>>>>
>>>> Then, comes the restoration of a plug in coil set for this transmitter.
>>>> This is a "cool" kind of rare transmitter. If it were not for it's
>>>> great
>>>> outside appearance, the time spent restoring this transmitter could not
>>>> be
>>>> justified. When finished it will be a jewel, but you could never get
>>>> your
>>>> time and money out of it if you ever would want to part with it. I
>>>> know
>>>> this going into the restoration. As I mentioned earlier, a WRL Globe
>>>> Scout
>>>> 40A looks like a Collins internally compared to this rigs guts. The
>>>> Lettine
>>>> cabinet, front panel and transformers were all first class. From that
>>>> point
>>>> on it was all downhill.
>>>>
>>>> Lee, w0vt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>> Boatanchors mailing list
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>>>>
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>>>> ** For Assistance: dfischer at usol.com **
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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