Re: [Boatanchors] Re: [Milsurplus] OT: New Ebay Rules for FB

[Joe Dube]

It does seem that they are pushing their own agenda.  One of my listings, 
just today, was removed because I mention " Western Union and Moneygram" as 
a method of payment.  This was directed specificlly to the international 
buyer.  I suppose that's ok as it is there "ballgame", but this time I 
happend to have several bidders on the item and the note that they were sent 
appeared to me that I had violated some "holy rule of order"!.  It also left 
me with the impression that I might be a scam artist or some sort of dirty 
trickster.  Needless to say I have no way to contact these individuals to 
let them know it was only a "new payment" rule violation and not something 
to do with me or the listing.  I guess when you have the only game in town 
or at least the most popular one, greed and the exclusion of any other 
competion go hand in hand.  Too bad too as I  have been running the same add 
for nearly ten years with only a couple of minor changes!  Then one day I 
wake up to find that I am violating some cardinal rule that I was not aware 
had been put into place.  Oh well I guess that's the way it goes!!!!  Thanks 
for the time guys.

Joe K4TR

From: "J Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
To: <Radioman390 at cs.com>
Cc: "Boat Anchors" <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>; <ARC5 at mailman.qth.net>; 
<Rebecca-Eureka at yahoogroups.com>; <armyradios at yahoogroups.com>; 
<milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:03 PM
Subject: [Boatanchors] Re: [Milsurplus] OT:   New Ebay Rules for FB


> Not necessarily:
>
> Has anyone else noticed that you cannot leave FB for a seller, UNLESS the
> seller has 'marked the item as paid' ?
>
> If that continues under the new scheme, sellers can simply block FB from
> transactions that don't go to their liking by simply not marking items as
> paid.  In fact, eBay could start removing buyers, simply because sellers 
> are
> not marking items paid, even though they have been.
>
> Of course, eBay will answer that if you use PayPal, items automatically 
> get
> marked paid. But PayPal gives far less protection for buyers than, say, 
> USPS
> Money Orders.
>
> IMO, this is partly a ploy by eBay to force you to use their 'banking'
> system, and major profit center, PayPal.
>
> FWIW,
> -John
>
> ============================
>
> Radioman390 at cs.com wrote:
>
>> J Forster <jfor at quik.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Subject:             New Ebay Rules (was Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re:
>> >HP 8447D)
>> >    Date:             Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:17:00 -0600
>> >   From:             Dave-NR1DX/0 <nr1dx at arrl.net>
>> >
>> >
>> >Among other things in the new rules sellers will no longer be able to
>> >leave negative feedback for buyers ..... interesting concept ...
>> >
>> ========================
>
>>
>> The new rules are just a step in the process of changing EBAY into a pure 
>> advertising company, where you pay for the listing and for successful 
>> transactions only in the form of transaction and PayPal fees.
>>
>> I have mixed feelings about dropping older feedbacks (after 12 months) 
>> and relying on current transactions for the FB ratings. I joined EBay two 
>> weeks before 9-11-01, and my first 10 transactions went sour because I 
>> was living in a hotel in NYC working 7 days a week. Although I completed 
>> over half of those transactions and paid the sellers later, the damage 
>> was done. Subsequent deals have been 100% good, but those 10 negatives 
>> dropped me down to 98.6%.
>>
>> Since I frequently sell or trade, not being able to give negative ratings 
>> to winning bidders who default, seems to me to be favoring EBay's image 
>> building plan. It will no doubt increase the number of unsold items, 
>> which costs the sellers the listing fees for repeated attempts to sell 
>> and does nothing to penalize spurious buyers.
>>
>> I suppose that Meg Whitman is leaving because the "new EBay" she created 
>> is not fun anymore despite the cute graphics (I feel like I'm at a church 
>> bake sale). They seem to have learned from Craig's List (they own 25%) 
>> policy of totally free listings. EBay costs around 10% for a completed 
>> deal, based on listing fees (unless you start at 99 cents), buy-it-now or 
>> reserve fees, completed deal fees, and the 3% for Paypal. What we have to 
>> decide is whether it's worth it.
>>
>> To summarize, only Sellers can get negative listings, right?
>
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