[Boatanchors] ARC 5 stuff - LIST

J Forster jfor at quik.com
Sun Sep 23 15:56:15 EDT 2007


I used to shop at a state government warehouse for a university that I worked
with. Their mission was to take donated federal surplus and pass it on to
deserving educational (and other) programs.

I saw DOZENS of virtually new, state of the art, Tektronix (475As and 485As)
scopes being loaded into pickups so the kids in a technical high school could
practice soldering !!!

If you think that sort of thing is not wasted, what is??

Frankly, I'm more than disgusted with hams that think they know better that the
original designers of the equipment how it should be operated, without ever
bothering to even read the damn manuals first. Time and again I've read about
TVI and other spurious problems in WW II gear when some jerk has the thing
grossly mismatched and the B+ cranked up to several times the design spec. The
designers in WW II were NOT fools. (OTOH, some of the early TV designers might
well have been.)

-John



Jim Brannigan wrote:

> No Meir, they were not wasted.
>
> The Surplus radios of the 40's, 50's, 60's and even into the 70's provided a
> boon to the radio hobby and the advancement of the electronic arts.
> This enormous supply of cheap electronics was cut up for parts, modified
> into early SSB transmitters and performance receivers (Q-5ers),
> used to explore the VHF and UHF bands and some used as-is.
> This cheap and plentiful source made it possible for many to become
> electronics hobbyists and start electronic careers.
> More than a few electronics firms were launched using cheap surplus
> components.
>
> It is nice that a few are preserved in their original state, but it would
> have been a shame if the prevailing wisdom was to preserve all of them,
> then the state of electronic development would have been frozen at VJ Day
> 1945.
>
> Jim
>
> >I also did that kind of things when I was young and stupidly thought that
> > there is an infinite supply of surplus radios, so modifying/destroying a
> > few
> > won't matter in the long run.
> > I know better now.
> > The ARC-5 type transmitters if properly matched to the antenna (bear in
> > mind
> > the output circuit is not designed for a 50 ohm coax-fed resonant antenna,
> > so additional, external matching is necessary, with the TVI low-pass
> > filter.
> > Also, keeping the voltages to what the original system is designed for and
> > using it at the rated power as specified, keep everything under control,
> > including TVI.
> > But in those days almost everything, including commercially manufactured
> > ham
> > transmitters had TVI if further precautions were not taken.
> > The surplus transmitters' bad reputation as to harmonics, instability  and
> > TVI spread because hams didn't use the systems as designed, at the supply
> > voltages and  power levels as specified, loaded them into antennas they
> > were
> > not designed to work into, thereby causing all the on-the-air problems.
> > Properly used, with original voltage levels, loading and matching them
> > properly, makes them no worse than their contemporary ham transmitters.
> > Many of us still use WW2 surplus equipment on the ham bands, as close as
> > possible to the original system configuration with original power
> > supplies,
> > racks, cabling, etc, as the radios were designed and we have no problems
> > at
> > all.
> >
> > 73, Meir WF2U
> > Landrum, SC
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> > [mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brannigan
> > Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 11:43 AM
> > To: Meir WF2U; 'RAY FRIESS'; boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] ARC 5 stuff - LIST
> >
> > I had an ARC-5 on 40CW that caused more TVI key-up than key-down.......
> > it had most of the parts from the MD-7 modulator on a separate Power
> > supply/modulator deck.
> >
> > Also, I modified one to use as a VFO for a Central Electronics 20A
> > (9Mcs.?)
> >
> > Jim
> >
>
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