Jim said....The junk collecting gene makes me keep some of these old radios, but one day they are going in the garbage and that's that!!! Umm.... Jim, What day is your trash pickup? ;) John Flood TASC Department KROHNE, Inc 7 Dearborn Rd. Peabody, MA 01960 Tel.: 978-535-6060 / 800-356-9464 Fax: 978-535-8180