[Boatanchors] Solder source
Glenn Little WB4UIV
glennmaillist at bellsouth.net
Wed Jan 10 20:48:57 EST 2007
Hamfest
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Glenn
WB4UIV
At 05:36 PM 01/10/07, Dave Maples wrote:
>All: I have two partial pounds of Multicore left. With all the RoHS stuff
>in play, it appears that standard solder is getting harder to purchase.
>Where do you guys purchase your solder?
>
>Dave WB4FUR
>
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> 1. Collins Net (david knepper)
> 2. Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (AD5VJ Bob)
> 3. RE: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (bill riches)
> 4. Re: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (mikea)
> 5. Re: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
> (Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com)
> 6. Re: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
> (James A. (Andy) Moorer)
> 7. Re: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (Bob Scupp)
> 8. Re: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (J Forster)
> 9. RE: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (Mike Sanders K0AZ)
> 10. RE: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (J Forster)
> 11. Re: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (Sandy W5TVW)
> 12. Re: Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA (WA5CAB at cs.com)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 06:48:07 -0500
>From: "david knepper" <collinsradio at adelphia.net>
>Subject: [Boatanchors] Collins Net
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:16:13 -0600
>From: "AD5VJ Bob" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>
>Subject: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
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>I have always used 60/40 Rosin Core Solder for soldering.
>
>Is there anything wrong with soldering older boards in the older rigs using
>Kester Rosin Core 63/37 Alloy.
>
>Looks pretty close to me, but I am not sure since I have never done it.
>Sure is a lot cheaper.
>
>Tnx
>bob ad5vj
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:28:35 -0500
>From: "bill riches" <bill.riches at verizon.net>
>Subject: RE: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: "'AD5VJ Bob'" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>,
> <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
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>63/37 is the solder to use - Kester is good but Ersin "Multicore" is the
>best. 63/37 is the mixture that turns from molten to solid the quickest
>- 60/40 has a larger "plastic" temperature range.
>
>73,
>
>Bill Riches, WA2DVU
>Cape May, NJ
>
>
>I have always used 60/40 Rosin Core Solder for soldering.
>
>Is there anything wrong with soldering older boards in the older rigs
>using Kester Rosin Core 63/37 Alloy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:31:50 -0600
>From: mikea <mikea at mikea.ath.cx>
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
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>On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:28:35PM -0500, bill riches wrote:
> > 63/37 is the solder to use - Kester is good but Ersin "Multicore" is the
> > best. 63/37 is the mixture that turns from molten to solid the quickest
> > - 60/40 has a larger "plastic" temperature range.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Bill Riches, WA2DVU
> > Cape May, NJ
> >
> >
> > I have always used 60/40 Rosin Core Solder for soldering.
> >
> > Is there anything wrong with soldering older boards in the older rigs
> > using Kester Rosin Core 63/37 Alloy.
>
>IIRC, and I'm pretty sure I do, 63/37 is the eutectic alloy: the one
>that goes directly from molten to frozen with zero plastic state in
>between.
>
>IMHO, the only time you want to use something else is when you're
>soldering stuff that requires silver-bearing solder, such as Tek scope
>terminal boards.
>
>--
>Mike Andrews, W5EGO
>mikea at mikea.ath.cx
>Tired old sysadmin
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:42:48 EST
>From: Flowertime01 at wmconnect.com
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
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>Bill,
>
>As long as the subject of application is a boatanchor, you have the
>right stuff.
>
>Do not throw away the 60/40. Thats good enough for lots of things also.
>Some times fast is not always best.
>
>63/37 works well on printed circuit boards also.
>
>If it has a printed circuit card, is it a boat anchor?
>Are those two item mutually exclusive?
>
>Roger AI4NI
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:47:39 -0500
>From: "James A. (Andy) Moorer" <jamminpower at earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
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>----- Original Message -----
> >
> > If it has a printed circuit card, is it a boat anchor?
> > Are those two item mutually exclusive?
> >
>
>
>Of course not! The SRR-13 (and its relatives, the FRR-23, SRR-11, etc) has
>the tubes soldered down to PC boards. It weighs about 70 pounds and thus
>easily qualifies for boatanchor.
>
>James A. (Andy) Moorer
>www.jamminpower.com
>
>
>
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>Message: 7
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:59:49 -0800 (PST)
>From: Bob Scupp <k5sep at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
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>Hello All-
>
>I worked in Albuquerque, New Mexico for Electronic
>Parts Company for 16 years (1977-1993). We stocked
>60/40 rosin core solder by the 1/2lb and 1lb. spools.
>We also stocked 63/37 Ersin Multicore solder in one
>pound spools. For general purpose applications
>including printed circuit board applications, I do not
>recall any complaints about using the 63/37 as a
>substitute.
>
>I agree with using 63/37 as a substitute for 60/40 if
>the former is unavailable. It should work just fine.
>
>Bob K5SEP
>
>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:22:56 -0500
>From: J Forster <jfor at quik.com>
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
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> On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:28:35PM -0500, bill riches wrote:
> > 63/37 is the solder to use - Kester is good but Ersin "Multicore" is
>the
> > best. 63/37 is the mixture that turns from molten to solid the
>quickest
> > - 60/40 has a larger "plastic" temperature range.
>
>
>
>Unless, of course, you are working on an audio amp with tubes like
>304TLs. Then you MUST, ABSOLUTELY MUST, use WECo 123 solder, made only
>in the Oshkosh factory by Swedish elves, or our sound clarity may be
>fatally impaired.
>
>Actually, the 63/37 is eutectic and makes very nice joints. The Kester
>44 has a good flux that does not corrode even after decades. It's the
>stuff NASA and the USAF have used for at least 25 years.
>-John
>
>
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:50:16 -0600
>From: "Mike Sanders K0AZ" <k0az at centurytel.net>
>Subject: RE: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: "J Forster" <jfor at quik.com>, <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>Message-ID: <NIBBKIGCGLJLADAAECHPEEBHDHAA.k0az at centurytel.net>
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>63/37 eutectic has a 1 degree plastic range. Been using it for a couple
>decades now
>commercially and hobby wise.
>
>K0AZ Mike Sanders
>18169 Highway 174
>MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171
>k0az at k0az.com <mailto:k0az at k0az.com>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:boatanchors-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of J Forster
>Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 2:23 PM
>To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:28:35PM -0500, bill riches wrote:
> > 63/37 is the solder to use - Kester is good but Ersin "Multicore" is
>the
> > best. 63/37 is the mixture that turns from molten to solid the
>quickest
> > - 60/40 has a larger "plastic" temperature range.
>
>
>
>Unless, of course, you are working on an audio amp with tubes like
>304TLs. Then you MUST, ABSOLUTELY MUST, use WECo 123 solder, made only
>in the Oshkosh factory by Swedish elves, or our sound clarity may be
>fatally impaired.
>
>Actually, the 63/37 is eutectic and makes very nice joints. The Kester
>44 has a good flux that does not corrode even after decades. It's the
>stuff NASA and the USAF have used for at least 25 years.
>-John
>
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>Message: 10
>Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:19:18 -0500
>From: J Forster <jfor at quik.com>
>Subject: RE: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
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> 63/37 eutectic has a 1 degree plastic range. Been using it for a
>couple
> decades now commercially and hobby wise.
>
>Just to pick up a couple of loose ends:
>
>The 63/3 means 63% tin, 37% lead and is the metal alloy of the solder.
>That's the same manufacturer to manufacturer.
>
>The Kester 44 is the FLUX type. I think it's RMA... Rosin, Mildly
>Activated (or Active). Likely Ersin uses a somewhat different flux.
>
>Finally, the o.o15" OD is a bit thin for BA work. That just means you
>will have to feed more length of bthe stuff.
>
>I've been using the Kester 44 for at least 25 years and it works very
>nicely. One caution: it may start to get harder to get soon as the EUC
>and others have banned lead.
>
>-John
>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 11
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:27:01 -0600
>From: "Sandy W5TVW" <ebjr at i-55.com>
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: "bill riches" <bill.riches at verizon.net>, "'AD5VJ Bob'"
> <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>, <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
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>I too used Multicore for years and years. I must say: "BEWARE!" Multicore
>has some newer solder fluxes that are absolutely awful! Maybe the kind that
>washes off easy or whatever. Anyway, make sure you get the OLD type flux
>combination! I have a pound of Multicore here that is unusable.
>
>73,
>Sandy W5TVW
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "bill riches" <bill.riches at verizon.net>
>To: "'AD5VJ Bob'" <rtnmi at sbcglobal.net>; <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
>Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 1:28 PM
>Subject: RE: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>
>
> > 63/37 is the solder to use - Kester is good but Ersin "Multicore" is the
> > best. 63/37 is the mixture that turns from molten to solid the quickest
> > - 60/40 has a larger "plastic" temperature range.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Bill Riches, WA2DVU
> > Cape May, NJ
> >
> >
> > I have always used 60/40 Rosin Core Solder for soldering.
> >
> > Is there anything wrong with soldering older boards in the older rigs
> > using Kester Rosin Core 63/37 Alloy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Message: 12
>Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:41:52 EST
>From: WA5CAB at cs.com
>Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Solder 63/37 Alloy, .015" Dia., #44 RA
>To: ebjr at i-55.com, boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
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>Sandy,
>
>What's wrong with the newer stuff? What does it do? I've always preferred
>Multicore to anything from Kester (despite the fact it makes good joints
>that
>look like cold solder joints).
>
>In a message dated 1/8/2007 6:27:35 PM Central Standard Time, ebjr at i-55.com
>writes:
> > I too used Multicore for years and years. I must say: "BEWARE!"
>Multicore
> >
> > has some newer solder fluxes that are absolutely awful! Maybe the kind
>that
> >
> > washes off easy or whatever. Anyway, make sure you get the OLD type flux
> > combination! I have a pound of Multicore here that is unusable.
>
>Robert Downs - Houston
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