[Boatanchors] Re: Boatanchors Digest, Vol 31, Issue 22

Sat Aug 19 08:14:11 EDT 2006

Pete D . Williams
METUNG 3904
Australia
jupete at bigpond.net.au
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Today's Topics:

   1. FS:  SAMS  Photofacts (Kristjan Ragnarson)
   2. Re: Re: Hamfests (J. Forster)
   3. Re: Xtals & ICM (Revcom Electronics)
   4. Re: Re: Hamfests (Peter Markavage)
   5. Re: Xtals & ICM (Glenn Little WB4UIV)
   6. Re: Re: Hamfests (RJ Mattson)
   7. Re: Xtals & ICM (Revcom Electronics)
   8. Recommendation for Crystals (david knepper)
   9. Re: Recommendation for Crystals (Al Parker)
  10. troubleshooting for idiot savants (or just idiots) (jeff)

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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:59:41 +0000
From: "Kristjan Ragnarson" <hvalver at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Boatanchors] FS:  SAMS  Photofacts
To: boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <BAY107-F417E1F90EEFE22CCECFB0BD420 at phx.gbl>
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Anyone inteested in a mess (265 of them) older SAMS Photofacts,
original
packets? They're from
an estate around here and mostly cover 1950-70's vintage TV, AM/FM,
home
entertainment systems
and car radios.  5 boxes of them. Inventory list is available by email
(index is online - Google it)
Taking the best offer.
73
Walt (N4GL)
thorsslegge at yahoo.com
trollmeister at earthlink.net

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:37:33 -0400
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Re: Hamfests
To: Peter Markavage <manualman at juno.com>
Cc: Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <44E5D0AD.B00EB8DC at quik.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Compared to some years ago, the last couple of fleas there have been a
REAL
disappointment. I've pretty much decided not to go this year, or
again.

-John

Peter Markavage wrote:

> And the Boxboro, MA hamfest is the following weekend, August 26-27.
Held
> every two years, it draws a big crowd. Both indoor and outdoor, it's
also
> the ARRL New England Convention. Tons of forums and generally a "ham
> celebrity" or two can be found in the crowd.
>
> Maybe I'll bring all my unbuilt Eico's and cash them in and reap the
big
> bucks.
>
> Pete, wa2cwa

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:26:18 -0500
From: "Revcom Electronics" <revcom at wbsnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Xtals & ICM
To: <telegrapher at att.net>, <Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <D6C8F11D2AA047688F6DFAA84C3159CE at rod7vu6baut2im>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

All...

Have to add my 2-cents worth.

Have been dealing with ICM since the late 60's.  They
are the standard for crystals as far as I am concerned.
Order a crystal or channel element, usually do not have
to trim or tweek at all, just plug it in.  On freq.

They are very professional and knowledgeable, and have
correlation for about anything that uses crystals.  We used them
exclusively
for Broadcast work and microwave
elements in years past.

They, and all crystal companies, have gone through a
major change.  Every thing is VCO/PLL controlled, you
don't have a zillion crystals in radios anymore,  about
ALL channel elements in computers comes from over
seas.

They bought out Sentry Mfg,  a competitor in OK a
few years back.  May have combined other companies
too.

I pay $19.99/crystal from ICM for Plain Jane two way
radio work and gladly.  I know they work, are aged
properly and have NEVER had a defective unit in all
these years.  (Wrong ones yes, my error though)

I order in lots from -1- to -25-, makes no difference on
service, always on time.

They are available at 1-800-725-1426

Just to clear the air a little on my part.

Rod
K0EQH
REVCOM

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 11:32:36 -0400
From: Peter Markavage <manualman at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Re: Hamfests
To: Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: <20060818.113236.764.0.manualman at juno.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

No problem. It just leaves more for us to choose from for those who do
go.

Pete, wa2cwa

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:37:33 -0400 "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
writes:
> Compared to some years ago, the last couple of fleas there have been
> a REAL
> disappointment. I've pretty much decided not to go this year, or
> again.
>
> -John
>

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:14:28 -0400
From: Glenn Little WB4UIV <glennmaillist at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Xtals & ICM
To: "Revcom Electronics" <revcom at wbsnet.org>, <telegrapher at att.net>,
<Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20060818131341.035f2eb0 at mail.bellsouth.net>
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Is it true that ICM no longer has a lifetime warranty on their
crystals?

73
Glenn
WB4UIV

At 11:26 AM 08/18/06, Revcom Electronics wrote:
>All...
>
>Have to add my 2-cents worth.
>
>Have been dealing with ICM since the late 60's.  They
>are the standard for crystals as far as I am concerned.
>Order a crystal or channel element, usually do not have
>to trim or tweek at all, just plug it in.  On freq.
>
>They are very professional and knowledgeable, and have
>correlation for about anything that uses crystals.  We used them
exclusively
>for Broadcast work and microwave
>elements in years past.
>
>They, and all crystal companies, have gone through a
>major change.  Every thing is VCO/PLL controlled, you
>don't have a zillion crystals in radios anymore,  about
>ALL channel elements in computers comes from over
>seas.
>
>They bought out Sentry Mfg,  a competitor in OK a
>few years back.  May have combined other companies
>too.
>
>I pay $19.99/crystal from ICM for Plain Jane two way
>radio work and gladly.  I know they work, are aged
>properly and have NEVER had a defective unit in all
>these years.  (Wrong ones yes, my error though)
>
>I order in lots from -1- to -25-, makes no difference on
>service, always on time.
>
>They are available at 1-800-725-1426
>
>Just to clear the air a little on my part.
>
>Rod
>K0EQH
>REVCOM
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:43:41 -0400
From: "RJ Mattson" <rjmattson at hvi.net>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Re: Hamfests
To: <Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <00d401c6c2ed$d8bcd710$12e7e8c7 at Laptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I think this has been a banner year in the north east for fest
attendees and
gear.
I have one of each ba now so I only look :-)
bob...w2ami

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Markavage" <manualman at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Re: Hamfests

No problem. It just leaves more for us to choose from for those who do
go.
Pete, wa2cwa

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:37:33 -0400 "J. Forster" <jfor at quik.com>
writes:
> Compared to some years ago, the last couple of fleas there have been
> a REAL
> disappointment. I've pretty much decided not to go this year, or
> again.
>
> -John

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:48:58 -0500
From: "Revcom Electronics" <revcom at wbsnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Xtals & ICM
To: <telegrapher at att.net>, <Boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>, "Glenn
Little WB4UIV" <glennmaillist at bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <995D35ACE0B64CBE9AF411A6E1565A74 at rod7vu6baut2im>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

ICM has a -1- year warranty now.  Much the same in
all the industry.

Rod
REVCOM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glenn Little WB4UIV" <glennmaillist at bellsouth.net>

> Is it true that ICM no longer has a lifetime warranty on their
crystals?
>
> 73
> Glenn
> WB4UIV
>

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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:25:49 -0400
From: "david knepper" <collinsradio at adelphia.net>
Subject: [Boatanchors] Recommendation for Crystals
To: "Collins Mail List" <collins at mailman.qth.net>,
<boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>, <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <014701c6c315$42d0fd80$6501a8c0 at david2e3ehqtvj>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Just got off the phone with Mel, the owner of MH Electronics.  Would
you
believe that he has been in the crystal business for well over 50
years.  He
is a young 80ish gentleman who can assist you with your crystal needs.
Back
in the 50's, when he worked for Midland, he made crystals for Collins
Radio.

Dave, W3ST
Publisher of the Collins Journal
Secretary to the Collins Radio Association
www.collinsra.com - the CRA Website
Now with PayPal
CRA Nets: 3805 Khz every Monday at 8 PM EST
and 14255 every Saturday at 12 Noon EST

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:57:04 -0400
From: "Al Parker" <anchor at ec.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Recommendation for Crystals
To: "david knepper" <collinsradio at adelphia.net>, "Collins Mail List"
<collins at mailman.qth.net>, <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>,
<amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <068d01c6c319$9fec2590$3201a8c0 at w8ut>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I've done business with Mel, heard some of the stories, great svc,
good
guy, etc.  (since we're giving testimonials)
73,
Al, W8UT
New Bern, NC
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david knepper" <collinsradio at adelphia.net>
To: "Collins Mail List" <collins at mailman.qth.net>;
<boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>; <amradio at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: [Boatanchors] Recommendation for Crystals

> Just got off the phone with Mel, the owner of MH Electronics.  Would
you
> believe that he has been in the crystal business for well over 50
years.
He
> is a young 80ish gentleman who can assist you with your crystal
needs.
Back
> in the 50's, when he worked for Midland, he made crystals for
Collins
Radio.
>
> http://www.mhelectronics.com/contactus.shtml

> Dave, W3ST

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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:06:44 -0400
From: jeff <jeffv at op.net>
Subject: [Boatanchors] troubleshooting for idiot savants (or just
idiots)
To: Hallicrafters list <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Cc: boatanchors list <boatanchors at mailman.qth.net>, Ham help group
<hamradiohelpgroup at yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <1155949604.9141.72.camel at stanley>
Content-Type: text/plain

I built a shortwave converter kit from Vectronics.  It converts a
1060kHz slice of two SW bands to tune on an AM radio.

I shoulda noticed that the instructions were off when I found a cap
that
wasn't mentioned in the installation section.  When trying to align
it,
it appeared that the bandswitch was backwards.

1. local oscillator alignment:
Set AM radio to oscillator freq, adj trimmer until heard on radio
(no mention made of how to get the signal to the radio - I used a
direct
connection from the +output to the radio's +antenna in)

2. [align w/freq counter] make `gimmick capacitor' from 2-3" wire,
twisted together.  Used to couple the local osc signal from pin 7 of
the
IC to counter input.  Cables MUST be very short to prevent
attenuation.
(am I supposed to connect it, lay it over the IC, near the board,
across
the room, or in Outer Mongolia?)

I seem to be able to get one of the oscillator freqs to appear but
that's about it.  I can't tune any stations, even with decent external
antennas.

Since I can get a freq to appear, the oscillator has to be working,
which is essentially what this kit is.  I'm at a loss as to how to
troubleshoot from here  (bloody RF...)   [Shoulda used tubes!]

Suggestions appreciated.

"Semi-Oscillated in PA"

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