[Boatanchors] Old Electrolytics Any Good?
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Tue Dec 28 10:16:47 EST 2004
There's nothing to disagree with in the post below but one word of caution. In addition to the usual high voltage precautions, 1000mf at 450 volts represents a LOT of power that will make a pretty good fireball and bang if it is allowed to discharge all at once. I would be sure to discharge with a resistor and monitor the charge with the voltmeter to know when its dissipated. I would also store these after forming with the terminals shorted for good measure even if they are electrolytics.
Pat
wa4tuk
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> Jim,
>
> Electrolytics that have not been used for a while must be "reformed." This is
> the process of applying ectricity to the capacitor while limiting current so as
> to electrolytically reform the dielectric.
>
> The setup can be as simple as a variac, a transformer to supply the high
> voltage, a rectifier, a voltmeter to measure voltage across the cap and a
> milliammeter in series with the cap and power supply to measure leakage
> current.
>
> Hookup the variac, transformer and diode to supply variable dc. Add the
> volmeter across the output and the milliammeter in series with the output.
>
> Connect the capacitor. Make sure the variac is in the off position and apply
> power to the variac.
>
>
> Slowly bring up power on the variac while watching the voltmeter and
> milliammeter. You will notice each time you increase the voltage you will get
> a spike in the series current. The current will diminish slowly to some leakage
> value. It should happen fairly quickly. Keep the series current down to a
> couple of MA.
>
> I personally take the applied voltage beyond the working voltage to perhaps
> 500 vdc. There is always a surge voltage value that the manufacturer expects
> the capacitor to cope with. However, depending on you application you may not
> have to go this high. I just do this so that a capacitor meant for service at
> 450v will not having any more forming to do in circuit.
>
> BE CAREFUL TO DISCHARGE THE CAP AFTER FORMING. It now has full voltage on
> it.
>
> After discharge, see how quickly the cap takes full voltage without drawing
> a great deal of leakage current.
>
> I am guessing you picked up some of the larger computer grade caps with the
> screw terminal tops. You m,ay be surprised at how much life may be left in
> them.
>
> de KA4JVY
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> --- Jamesnf at aol.com wrote:
>
> > I stumbled across a box of 1000Mfd @ 450v electrolytics on a shelf in the
> > basement. I think I brought these home from a hamfest 20 years ago, maybe
> > longer. Is there any possibility these could still be usable after all this
> > time?
> > Or should I just deposit them in the trash?
> >
> > Jim W9TM
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