[Boatanchors] Re Audiofools

Mon, 6 Oct 2003 07:51:57 -0700

then  sometimes when you get old the 30 watt pioneer ss unit sounds as  good
as the old marrantz model 9's

hearing seems to degrade as the years pass.... at least in my case

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Todd Bigelow - PS" <[email protected]>
To: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Boatanchors] Re Audiofools

> Duane Fischer, W8DBF wrote:
>
> >
> >On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:36:29 -0500 David Stinson <[email protected]>
> >writes:
> >Yes, I know it's grossly off topic. But I love to share a laugh with you
folks.
> > This little chunk of ferrite has the audiophool community burning
incense and
> >chanting mantras again.
> >
> >There are many of us who enjoy high end quality audio reproduction on
this list,
> >as well as others. While I enjoy a laugh at myself, or a situation, but
not at
> >other people, I think it was inappropriate to brand us who enjoy quality
audio
> >as 'audiofools'.
> >
>
> Duane -
>
> Just my spin on this, I don't think Dave meant that anyone who enjoys
> quality audio, classic stereo gear, or anything along those lines is a
> fool. The term 'audiofools/phools' refers more to the ones who believe
> all those snake oil ads like the one Dave cited. I doubt anyone would
> disagree with a statement or ad which was backed up by scientific
> evidence and concrete proof, but when so much of it is speculation,
> hocus-pocus, and opinion, well....that's where the 'phool' part comes
> charging in.
>
> I know some say that the difference between SS and tube, or digital and
> analog audio can't really be distinguished. I'd disagree, and I love the
> sound of my old tube HK amp and Scott tuner over the Pioneer SS rig I
> have. I draw the line though at placing NOS wax and paper caps or black
> beauties back into a piece of gear because they give it a 'warmer
> sound'. Same goes for many other claims out there and the warm, fuzzy
> terminology invented to support an unsupported position. When a seller
> has to give you candy-coated words to sell his product because he has no
> hard data to back up his claims, that should be a big clue. When such
> things begin being accepted by 'the crowd' (not unlike those who find it
> easier to call the R-390/URR a 'non-A', for example), then it's
> understandable why someone with even an average amount of common sense
> would look at this, shake their head, and consider such people as fools.
> What would you call someone who invents their own version of reality
> when it goes against what actually *is*? Crazy? Looney? Foolish?
>
> Not trying to start or futher a thread here. Like you, I prefer tube
> audio. I bet Dave does too. Just not the senseless and baseless hype
> often associated with it.
>
> 73 de Todd/'Boomer'  KA1KAQ
>
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