[ARRL-OK] Information needed

Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:22:42 +0100

Any fines or forfetures would be purely internal (Their organizational
department).

Type acceptance is important in the business band as well!

Other than the small caviot that says that operating an amateur frquency
during the course of business is a violation!

Profiting from Amateur radio, either directly or indirectly by use of these
frequencies is a no no!

MAH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kim Elmore" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [ARRL-OK] Information needed

> I believe that the problem lies in the specifications a radio must meet
for
> certain services.  As long as these radios aren't being used in the
Amateur
> service by non-Amateurs, then the problem isn't modified ham gear: the
> problem is that the gear being used doesn't meet the specifications for
the
> service and license.  Radio gear used for other services must be certified
> for those service, and this gear isn't certified for use in these
services.
>
> However, I doubt that anyone will get fined for this.  *ANYONE* may own a
> ham radio transceiver, modified in any way they choose, and carry it
> anywhere they want. It is illegal for then to *transmit* with it on the
ham
> bands, or in any service for which the radio is not specifically
certified.
> That said, the FCC typically takes an interest when a complaint is
> filed.  So, if this gear were causing interference to adjacent channels,
> other services, or causing troubles within the service, and someone
> complained, then the FCC will start investigating.
>
> I'm not quite sure, though, exactly what the non-hams are doing with the
> gear.  If all they want is receive capability, then a scanner will work
> just fine.  Hams who are also law enforcement officers or firemen, and
want
> a do-everything radio probably have a legitimate reason for this, even if
> it's illegal on a strictly-interpreted basis.
>
> There is commercial-grade gear available that can be programmed for the
ham
> bands, which is perfectly legal.  If all they need is receive capability
> for a couple of frequencies, the commercial grade gear would probably work
> fine and wouldn't cost much (if any) more than the ham gear, and all
> worries of FCC regulations violations would be assuaged.
>
> Kim Elmore, N5OP
>
> At 08:04 AM 8/20/2003 -0500, w5taz wrote:
> >Hello, I need some information. I tried to find the information I needed
> >on the FCC web page but was unable to do so.
> >
> >   I am a member of the Emergency Management here in Okmulgee County.
> > Several hams are also members. Other EM members are buying Ham radios
> > that are modified to operate out of band.
> >
> >   Those who are buying these radios are not hams. Most are law
> > inforcement, Firemen and such. I just had one call me for some
> > information on the legalities of him not having a Amateur liscense and
> > him owning this radio. He stated to me another officer told him he could
> > get a $5000 fine for having this radio in his patrol car.
> >
> >   These guys down here are all fine people and would not operate
> > illegally. But they are concerned about this situation. I have tried to
> > find information on this at the FCC web page but have been unsuccessfull
> > thus far. I even could not find it in my FCC rule book for hams.
> >
> >Can you help me?
> >
> >Is it illegal for non hams to own and use ham radios that are modified to
> >operate on frequencies that they are able to talk on?
> >
> >If you could help me or direct me to the proper place or person to ask it
> >would be appreciated. Thank you and I look forward to your reply's.
> >
> >Dave Lugo, W5TAZ
> >
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>                            Kim Elmore, Ph.D.
>                         University of Oklahoma
>          Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorological Studies
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