From kc5fm@juno.com  Tue Oct  1 18:42:28 2002
From: kc5fm@juno.com (Lloyd A Colston)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:42:28 -0500
Subject: [Ares-races] Hospitality Exchange for Hams
Message-ID: <20021001.124231.-366201.10.kc5fm@juno.com>

For you OLD TIME net users, you may remember HOSPEX (Hospitality Exchange
(http://www.hospex.org/)) for academics and students.  The thought of
registering to host similar lifestyles ventured out to now where it is
inclusive of Amateur Radio Operators.

Thilo Kootz has begun the International Travel Host Exchange just for
Radio Amateurs.  The information is in the attachment.  Most lists
restrict attachments.  Therefore, I will offer that, if you want to join,
I will email you the files directly.  Alternatively, I would encourage
your response to Mr. Kootz directly.  His contact information is:

Thilo Kootz        dl9kce@darc.de
DL9KCE
Technische Verbandsbetreuung
DARC e.V. Geschäftsstelle
Lindenallee 4
34225 Baunatal
Tel.: 0561/94988-40
FAX : 0561/94988-50

It won't save you on your airfare to get there, but joining could be your
ticket to a nice visit and a meaningful friendship.

Let me know how more I can help.

Lloyd Colston             Mayes County Emergency Management
Pryor, OK USA           http://www.geocities.com/mccem
        When Danger comes, you have no time to plan.

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From KD5PCK@cs.com  Thu Oct  3 02:49:31 2002
From: KD5PCK@cs.com (KD5PCK@cs.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 21:49:31 EDT
Subject: [Ares-races] FCC Declares Communications Emergency
Message-ID: <e5.1ee5c568.2accfc2b@cs.com>

NEWINGTON, CT, Oct 2, 2002--The FCC has declared a communications emergency=20
in response to the approach of Hurricane Lili. Under the authority of =A797.=
401=20
of the FCC Amateur Service rules, a general communications emergency has bee=
n=20
declared for the states of Louisiana and Texas. "Amateurs are required to=20
refrain from using 7285 kHz (daytime) and 3873 kHz (nighttime), plus or minu=
s=20
3 kHz unless they are taking part in the handling of emergency traffic," sai=
d=20
the FCC declaration from Joseph P. Casey, Chief of the Technical and Public=20
Safety Division of the FCC's Enforcement Bureau. The FCC declaration will=20
remain in effect until rescinded and could be in effect for as long as two=20
weeks.=20
The National Weather Service reports that Lili has strengthened rapidly to a=
=20
dangerous Category 4 hurricane. "Reports from an Air Force Reserve hurricane=
=20
hunter aircraft indicate that maximum sustained winds have increased to near=
=20
135 MPH with higher gusts," said an NWS bulletin issued at 1800 UTC.=20
"Preparations to protect life and property in the hurricane warning area=20
should be rushed to completion." South Texas ARRL Section Manager Ray Taylor=
,=20
N5NAV, says the FCC declaration will support the operation of the West Gulf=20
Emergency Net for Texas and Louisiana. Net operation began this morning.=20
Taylor also says Amateur Radio operators are staffing the Texas emergency=20
operations center in Austin as well as some along the coast, where=20
evacuations already have begun. The <A HREF=3D"http://www.hwn.org/">Hurrican=
e Watch Net</A> (HWN) activated at=20
1800 UTC today, and net members are keeping an eye on the storm's trajectory=
.=20
"The Hurricane Watch Net activates when ever a hurricane is within 300 miles=
=20
of the forecast landfall," said Bobby Graves, KB5HAV, who's filling in this=20
week for Net Manager Mike Pilgrim, K5MP. "However, given the population alon=
g=20
the Louisiana Gulf Coast, any change in course to the east will bring the ey=
e=20
on shore much earlier." The Hurricane Watch Net is scheduled to remain activ=
e=20
on 14.325 MHz until 0300 UTC then activate October 3 at first light, Graves=20
said. Operators at <A HREF=3D"http://www.fiu.edu/orgs/w4ehw/">W4EHW</A> at t=
he National Hurricane Center in Miami also have=20
been active and cooperating with the HWN effort. W4EHW volunteers were=20
scheduled to remain on duty at least until 0200 UTC. The NWS says "a=20
life-threatening storm surge" of 10 to 15 feet above normal tide levels is=20
likely near and to the east of where the center crosses the coast. "This=20
surge could spread well inland across the low-lying areas of the hurricane=20
warning area," the NWS said. Forecasters say rainfall accumulations of 6 to=20
10 inches are possible along Lili's track. A hurricane warning remains in=20
effect from east of high island Texas to the mouth of the Mississippi River.=
=20
A tropical storm warning remains in effect from Freeport, Texas, to High=20
Island, and from the mouth of the Mississippi River to the Alabama/Florida=20
border, including New Orleans and Lake Pontchartrain. As of 1800 UTC, the=20
storm's center was about 325 miles south of New Orleans and moving toward th=
e=20
northwest at nearly 15 MPH. Additional strengthening is possible this=20
afternoon and tonight. Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 45 miles=20
from the center, and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 185=20
miles. Graves noted that the Hurricane Watch Net has been working to attract=
=20
skilled, bilingual (English-Spanish) net control operators. He cited the wor=
k=20
of Hector Godoy, HR3HGB, and Herman Cueva, HR1HCP, of Honduras who earlier=20
this week helped to gather much-needed weather and storm damage information=20
from other emergency service ham frequencies, including Cuba. Assistant W4EH=
W=20
Amateur Radio Coordinator Julio Ripoll, WD4JR, said its bilingual operators=20
were able to receive preliminary damage reports via ham radio this week from=
=20
Cuba's Isle of Youth, where damage was more extensive than that experienced=20
during Hurricane Isidore. "Many homes have extensive roof damage," he said.=20
"Many large trees are down, some snapped in half." In addition, power was=20
reported out, a baseball stadium suffered damage to its roof, he said.=20


                               73
                               Scott Hernandez
                               KD5PCK




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From w3sj@ptd.net  Fri Oct  4 20:25:01 2002
From: w3sj@ptd.net (Dave Haney)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:25:01 -0400
Subject: [Ares-races] Plain text, please !!
Message-ID: <0c3501c26bdb$bcf248c0$0c9ce518@davescomputer>

Anything posted to ANY QSL.NET reflector MUST be in PLAIN TEST ONLY ! While
a few posts can be stripped of their HTML while preserving the message in
plain text, most end up with the whole message stripped away (and therefore
are meaningless).

Also, please make all posts are sent from the e-mail address under which you
are subscribed.

Tnx es 73

Dave Haney
W3SJ
List Moderator





From KD5PCK@cs.com  Sat Oct  5 00:33:10 2002
From: KD5PCK@cs.com (KD5PCK@cs.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:33:10 EDT
Subject: [Ares-races] Fwd: Fw: IRLP digest, Vol 1 #609 - 6 msgs
Message-ID: <11f.17b6280a.2acf7f36@cs.com>

Anyone interested?????

                               73
                               Scott Hernandez
                               KD5PCK


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From KD5PCK@cs.com  Sat Oct  5 14:16:03 2002
From: KD5PCK@cs.com (KD5PCK@cs.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:16:03 EDT
Subject: [Ares-races] Anyone Interested???
Message-ID: <d5.1e7e9f1f.2ad04013@cs.com>

Sorry--I forgot that it would get stripped. Here's the message I was trying 
to send.

Forwarded Message: 
Subj:   Fw: IRLP digest, Vol 1 #609 - 6 msgs    
Date:   10/4/2002 6:18:03 PM Central Daylight Time  
    

From:    n5ula@cox.net (Robert Hobbs)
To:    KD5PCK@cs.com (Scott Hernandez)


Scott,

I wanted to send this excerpt from the IRLP Digest on the recent Hurricane
Net that we had during LILI's visit. If you are not familiar with IRLP I
would be glad to get you some more info. I hope someday to find someone on
the coast and in Slidell to set up a IRLP Node. It is not very expensive to
do but high speed internet and height really helps. So far we have linked
sites in Lafayette, Abbeville, Greenwell Springs, Barataria and Baton Rouge.
We hope to expand sites along the coast for relaying info to the State OEP
and National Hurricane Center and if we can get Nodes in Slidell and Lake
Charles we can pass info to NWS also.
If you know of anyone in the Slidell area that would be willing to set up a
Node please let me know and I will be happy to try and help them.

Take a look at this Skywarn site.

http://www.qsl.net/sflskywarn/


73

Robert Hobbs
N5ULA
Node Owner  #856
Baton Rouge







> DIGEST READERS: Please remember to trim down your replies when you hit
your "Reply" button if your mail program quotes the previous e-mail!
>
> IRLP List Moderators
> ----------
> Message: 2
> From: "Paul Cassel" <paul@ve3sy.com>
> To: <irlp@yahoogroups.com>, <irlp@irlp.net>
> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 16:49:39 -0400
> Subject: [IRLP General] Good work everyone
>
>>
> From ARRL web site....
>
> Operators at W4EHW at the National Hurricane Center in Miami also were
> active and cooperated with the HWN effort.
>
> "With this storm we established another milestone in W4EHW's history,"
> McHugh said. "Using the Palmetto Radio Club repeater that was connected to
> similar repeaters in Louisiana via IRLP (Internet Radio Linking Protocol),
> we were able to collect weather reports from stations in the affected area
> that do not have HF radios." McHugh said Bob Broderick, WE4B, acted as net
> control for the IRLP-SKYWARN net. "We greatly appreciate his help in
helping
> us demonstrate this additional avenue for surface report collection," he
> said. "We want to thank all the stations that provided data and the
> Hurricane Watch Net for their help in relaying reports to NHC."
>
> Great to see IRLP in the press.  Good work to all those involved
>
> Paul VE3SY
>
> >
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 20:27:27 -0400
> From: Jim Price WW4M <jimprice@ipass.net>
> To: irlp@irlp.net
> Subject: [IRLP General] Ref921 back to normal use
>
> It appears that the Louisiana nodes won't be needing the use of ref921
> in their recovery from Lili.  (If I'm wrong, please let me know.)
>
> Thanks to absolutely everyone who helped out.  We didn't once need to
> block any nodes because of open squelches or other types of interference
> -- thanks to those nodes who connected for monitoring closely!  I think
> the Louisiana nodes and National Hurricane Center appreciated the
> ability to connect together without interruptions from concerned people
> on other nodes.  For a first time event like this, it went extremely
> well.
>
> 73, Jim WW4M
> Raleigh, NC
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 00:35:15 -0700
> From: Rod Templeton <ve7rjt@rac.ca>
> Subject: RE: [IRLP General] Reflector nets
> To: "'Jim Price WW4M'" <jimprice@ipass.net>
> Cc: irlp@irlp.net, irlp@yahoogroups.com
>
> Since this is something I've kind of wanted to see for awhile, so I went
> ahead and created it.  (Thanks, Jim)  :)
> The basic page is at http://ve7rjt.dnsq.org/irlpnet.htm  It's fairly
> vanilla, but should evolve over time.  Comments and suggestions
> encouraged.
>
> 73,
> Rod
>
> ==============================
> Rod Templeton, VE7RJT
> Email: ve7rjt@rac.ca
> Web: http://ve7rjt.dnsq.org
>
>
>
> Only http://groups.yahoo.com/group/irlpnets/, unless you want to create
> one :)
>
> 73, Jim WW4M
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> NE7X@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Is there a website available which lists all the different reflector
> > nets?
> > (ie: subject, time (utc), ref###)
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:15:36 -0400
> From: Robert WE4B <hamradio@bellsouth.net>
> To: IRLP SKYWARN NET <IRLP_SKYWARN_NET@yahoogroups.com>,
>    Internet Radio Linking Project <irlp@irlp.net>
> Subject: [IRLP General] Thanks for IRLP Hurricane Net on Ref 921
>
> To all the stations who helped in relays and the operation of the net.
>
> I want to thank all the nodes for their help with the Hurricane Net.
> We did make a great impression to the National Hurricane Center.
> We proved it could be done. They want to talk to me about future
> nets and the operations of them. I did bring up again the aspect of
> a node in the center. It now seems that may be an OPEN issue. I
> did say that our club would fund and maintain the node. I will be
> talking to them about installing a simplex node at the center soon.
>
> Now on to the Net.
> I do want to thank the guy's in Raleigh who helped. To Jim,
> WW4M and Nate, WY0X, who kept watch on key ups and
> reflector operation. To Danny KD5RAA for all his help. I might
> add Danny, that the patch from John, K4JVP the Hurricane
> Specialists in Morgan City was very well received!  I was looking
> over the log,  here are some but not all of the amateurs who
> helped pull this net together into a smooth operation..
> W5GIX, Baton Rouge Red Cross
> David, W5OER at the Louisiana Office of Emergency Preparedness
> Robert, N5ULA
> Joe, WO5G
> Charles, KI5XP
> Miguel, N5QLA
> Lawrence, W5IS
> Harris, KB5BFK/M
> Lee, KD5QYY
> Irving, KD5REQ
> Ward, KD4EUE
> John, K4JDP
> Bill, K4VGA
> Jose, KD4JWF
>
> Again thanks for all the help. Hope we DON'T have to do this any
> time soon!
> --
>
............................................................................
.............................
>
> Robert Broderick, WE4B
> Fort Lauderdale, Florida
> hamradio@bellsouth.net
> Palmetto Amateur Radio Club Vice President
> http://www.qsl.net/palmetto/
> Palmetto Amateur Radio Club 146.850 MHz Repeater Trustee
> IRLP Node 774 - Fort Lauderdale/North Miami
> IRLP SKYWARN NET,
> QCWA, RACES/ARES, Red Cross Communications
>
............................................................................
............................
>
> >
> --__--__--
>>
> End of IRLP Digest



                               73
                               Scott Hernandez
                               KD5PCK


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From KD5PCK@cs.com  Tue Oct  8 00:31:33 2002
From: KD5PCK@cs.com (KD5PCK@cs.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 19:31:33 EDT
Subject: [Ares-races] Open Letter To Hams
Message-ID: <d1.1f8bf5d8.2ad37355@cs.com>

      An Open Letter To All New Orleans Area Ham Radio Operators
     

     For those who don't know me, my name is Scott Hernandez, my call is 
KD5PCK. I have been licensed for just over a year and hold a technician class 
ticket. 
     In that year, I have been trying to participate as much as possible in 
public service communications. For various reasons, this hasn't been easy. 
     First of all, when you mention the words "public service", hams 
immediately think of emergency communications. I believe that there is more 
to public service than emergency communications.
     Secondly, I have found a serious lack of willingness of trained 
communicators to share their training in message handling, emergency 
protocol, etc. I have heard several hams ask for more volunteers and not 
offer to help train these volunteers.
     "Why don't you do it?", is a response that I have also encountered many 
times when I have complained about the lack of volunteerism. That is the 
purpose of this letter.
     I am going to do it!
     I would like to take the next month to gather names and contact 
information of those hams that would be willing to volunteer to use their 
training and operating skills to support communications for various local 
events throughout the year. Once I have this list completed, I will be 
contacting local organizations to ask if they would have a use our services. 
While I do not expect to be greeted with open arms, I am willing to try.  
     I plan to first contact the New Orleans Track Club. This organization 
sponsors many foot races throughout the New Orleans Area. Most notably, the 
Crescent City Classic and the Mardi Gras Marathon. I would also like to 
contact various bicycling
groups to ask if they could use our services for their rides also.
     What is needed? I would ask that those interested have at least a dual 
band HT with one back-up battery pack and a willingness to volunteer. All 
egos should be checked at the door.
     I would like to address another issue at this time. Most hams think that 
if they are not tied to a radio that they are not useful. This is not the 
case. Volunteers are vital to many organizations. If the ham community is not 
welcome as far as communications, there is no reason that hams cannot 
volunteer in another capacity. We need to put aside the belief that we are 
somehow superior to other volunteers. Sure, we would have fun "playing radio" 
for a day, but there is nothing wrong with leaving the radios in the car and 
helping out in another way.
     What I ask of those interested is the following: 
     Please contact me via email with your name, address, phone number, and 
any email addresses you may have. I would also like a list of what equipment 
you may have that can be used for an event, such as, a foot race, bicycle 
race, or festival atmosphere.
     I prefer to receive email responses. If you need to contact me by other 
means, please see below for information.       
     I will compile this information until approximately November 15, 2002. 
At that time I will begin contacting various nonprofit agencies. Hopefully, 
soon after, we can start showing that hams care about the communities they 
live in.
     If anyone has a contact with an agency that we may be able to serve, or 
any comments, advice, or would be willing to assist me, please contact me 
ASAP.
     Thanks for you time. I look forward to working with each of you in the 
future. 
                             73
                             Scott Hernandez
                             KD5PCK
                             P.O. Box 8122
                             Metairie, LA 70011-8122
                             


                      


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From KD5PCK@cs.com  Tue Oct  8 02:58:44 2002
From: KD5PCK@cs.com (KD5PCK@cs.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:58:44 EDT
Subject: [Ares-races] Hurricane Season
Message-ID: <f3.228c3950.2ad395d4@cs.com>

I thought this might be helpful information to prepare for the next
Hurricane.

I do hope everyone had remained dry during these past two weeks.

Take Care,

Suzanne Settoon



Louisiana Hurricane Season Notes

We're about to enter the peak of the hurricane season.  Any day now, you're
going to turn on the TV and see a weather person pointing to some radar blob
out in the Gulf of Mexico and making two basic meteorological points:

(1) There is no need to panic.
(2) We could all be killed.

Yes, hurricane season is an exciting time to be in Louisiana.  If you're
new to the area, you're probably wondering what you need to do to prepare
for the possibility that we'll get hit by "the big one.''

Based on our experiences, we recommend that you follow this simple
three-step hurricane preparedness plan:

STEP 1.
Buy enough food and bottled water to last your family for at least three
days.

STEP 2.
Put these supplies into your car.

STEP 3.
Drive to Nebraska and remain there until Halloween.

Unfortunately, statistics show that most people will not follow this
sensible plan.  Most people will foolishly stay here in Louisiana.

We'll start with one of the most important hurricane preparedness items:

HOMEOWNERS' INSURANCE:
If you own a home, you must have hurricane insurance.  Fortunately, this
insurance is cheap and easy to get, as long as your home meets two basic
requirements:

(1) It is reasonably well-built, and
(2) It is located in Nebraska.

Unfortunately, if your home is located in Louisiana, or any other area that
might actually be hit by a hurricane, most insurance companies would prefer
not to sell you hurricane insurance, because then they might be required to
PAY you money, and that is certainly not why they got into the insurance
business in the first place.  So you'll have to scrounge around for an
insurance company, which will charge you an annual premium roughly equal to
the replacement value of your house.  At any moment, this company can drop
you like used dental floss.  Since Hurricane George, I have had an estimated
27 different home-insurance companies.  This week, I'm covered by the Bob
and Big Stan Insurance Company, under a policy which, states that, in
addition to my premium, Bob and Big Stan are entitled, on demand, to my
kidneys.

SHUTTERS:
Your house should have hurricane shutters on all the windows, all the
doors, and -- if it's a major hurricane -- all the toilets.  There are
several types of shutters, with advantages and disadvantages:

Plywood shutters:
The advantage is that, because you make them yourself, they're cheap.  The
disadvantage is that, because you make them yourself, they will fall off.

Sheet-metal shutters:
The advantage is that these work well, once you get them all up.  The
disadvantage is that once you get them all up, your hands will be useless
bleeding stumps, and it will be December.

Roll-down shutters:
The advantages are that they're very easy to use, and will definitely
protect your house.  The disadvantage is that you will have to sell your
house to pay for them.

"Hurricane-proof'' windows:
These are the newest wrinkle in hurricane protection:  They look like
ordinary windows, but they can withstand hurricane winds!  You can be sure
of this, because the salesman says so.  He lives in Nebraska.

"Hurricane Proofing Your Property:
As the hurricane approaches, check your yard for movable objects like
barbecue grills, planters, patio furniture, visiting relatives, etc.   You
should, as a precaution, throw these items into your swimming pool (if you
don't have a swimming pool, you should have one built immediately).
Otherwise, the hurricane winds will turn these objects into deadly missiles.

EVACUATION ROUTE:
If you live in a low-lying area, you should have an evacuation route
planned out.  (To determine whether you live in a low-lying area, look at
your driver's license; if it says ``Louisiana,'' you live in a low-lying
area.)  The purpose of having an evacuation route is to avoid being trapped
in your home when a major storm hits.  Instead, you will be trapped in a
gigantic traffic jam several miles from your home, along with two hundred
thousand other evacuees.  So, as a bonus, you will not be lonely.

HURRICANE SUPPLIES:
If you don't evacuate, you will need a mess of supplies.  Do not buy them
now! Louisiana tradition requires that you wait until the last possible
minute, then go to the supermarket and get into vicious fights with
strangers over who gets the last can of SPAM.

In addition to food and water, you will need the following supplies:

23 flashlights

At least $167 worth of batteries that turn out, when the power goes off, to
be the wrong size for the flashlights.

Bleach.
(No, I don't know what the bleach is for.  NOBODY knows what the bleach is
for, but it's traditional, so GET some!)

A 55-gallon drum of underarm deodorant.

A big knife that you can strap to your leg.  (This will be useless in a
hurricane, but it looks cool.)

A large quantity of raw chicken, to placate the alligators.  (Ask anybody
who went through Camille; after the hurricane, there WILL be irate
alligators.)

$35,000 in cash or diamonds so that, after the hurricane passes, you can
buy a generator from a man with no discernible teeth.

Of course these are just basic precautions.  As the hurricane draws near, it
is vitally important that you keep abreast of the situation by turning on
your television and watching TV reporters in rain slickers stand right next
to the ocean and tell you over and over how vitally important it is for
everybody to stay away from the ocean.

Good luck, and remember:  It's great living in Paradise!



                               73
                               Scott Hernandez
                               KD5PCK


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From KD5PCK@cs.com  Wed Oct  9 23:23:20 2002
From: KD5PCK@cs.com (KD5PCK@cs.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 18:23:20 EDT
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
Message-ID: <111.19e18e00.2ad60658@cs.com>

 <A HREF="http://www.emcomm.org/red_cross/index.html">Click here: Red Cross Comm</A>www.emcomm.org/red_cross/index.html 


       A ham's dream!
                               73
                               Scott Hernandez
                               KD5PCK


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From Hunter" <hunter@one.net  Thu Oct 10 03:06:36 2002
From: Hunter" <hunter@one.net (Hunter)
Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 22:06:36 -0400
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
References: <111.19e18e00.2ad60658@cs.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c27001$af1d5ad0$a46017d8@monix>

Try this instead:

http://www.emcomm.org/red_cross/index.html

Always put a space on each end of URL's.

Howy

----- Original Message -----
From: <KD5PCK@cs.com>
To: <ares-races@mailman.qth.net>; <jarc@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:23 PM
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm


> <A HREF="http://www.emcomm.org/red_cross/index.html">Click here: Red Cross
Comm</A>www.emcomm.org/red_cross/index.html
>
>
>        A ham's dream!
>                                73
>                                Scott Hernandez
>                                KD5PCK
>
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From n7fan@intergate.com  Fri Oct 11 03:07:48 2002
From: n7fan@intergate.com (David French, N7FAN)
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 19:07:48 -0700
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
References: <111.19e18e00.2ad60658@cs.com>
Message-ID: <007601c270cb$00483780$2e840343@davidfre>

One problem.  They don't come with manuals.  The chapter here in Phoenix
took delivery of one and it wasn't completed yet.  It's only been in
manufacturing about 10+ months longer than planned...and it still didn't
have the master control console installed.

Oh, and no manuals to run the rigs.  Ever try to run a Kenwood TS-2000 from
scratch?

David,  N7FAN

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Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm


> <A HREF="http://www.emcomm.org/red_cross/index.html">Click here: Red Cross
Comm</A>www.emcomm.org/red_cross/index.html
>
>
>        A ham's dream!
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>                                Scott Hernandez
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From n5jep@swbell.net  Fri Oct 11 06:39:31 2002
From: n5jep@swbell.net (Rosalio Salas)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 00:39:31 -0500
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
Message-ID: <000b01c270e8$9330fce0$35094141@RSALAS>

I can only imagine the headache involved.

Without the Master Control Console, what is the vehicle's operational
status?

-----Original Message-----
From: ares-races-admin@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:ares-races-admin@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David French,
N7FAN
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:08 PM
To: KD5PCK@cs.com; ares-races@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm

One problem.  They don't come with manuals.  The chapter here in Phoenix
took delivery of one and it wasn't completed yet.  It's only been in
manufacturing about 10+ months longer than planned...and it still didn't
have the master control console installed.

Oh, and no manuals to run the rigs.  Ever try to run a Kenwood TS-2000
from
scratch?

David,  N7FAN


=A0
Rosalio (Leo) E. Salas
EPSI, Inc., d.b.a. Domino's Pizza
Area Supervisor, Northern District
ARRL Emergency Coordinator, Lamar County, TX
Lamar County Amateur Radio Emergency Service
http://www.lamarcountyares.cjb.net/
n5jep@swbell.net
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From seamus@macronet.com  Fri Oct 11 14:45:59 2002
From: seamus@macronet.com (Seamus)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:45:59 -0400
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
In-Reply-To: <000b01c270e8$9330fce0$35094141@RSALAS>
Message-ID: <000001c2712c$88221570$6701a8c0@jl1>

I can only imagine the $$$ that went into that. Now I see where Red
Cross money goes to..



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[mailto:ares-races-admin@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rosalio Salas
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 1:40 AM
To: ares-races@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm


I can only imagine the headache involved.

Without the Master Control Console, what is the vehicle's operational
status?



From n4aof@arrl.net  Fri Oct 11 16:19:29 2002
From: n4aof@arrl.net (N4AOF)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:19:29 -0400
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
References: <000001c2712c$88221570$6701a8c0@jl1>
Message-ID: <01a201c27139$986cd8e0$aef3dc0c@P4>

Actually it's Ford Motor Company money (combined with a little from several
other corporate donors) the total cost to the Red Cross was the trivial
expense of having people attend the Ford press conference when they
announced the DONATION.

The simple fact is that the Red Cross lacks the vision to realize that it
WOULD HAVE been a good thing to create and buy such vehicles already.

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From: "Seamus" <seamus@macronet.com>
To: <ares-races@mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 09:45
Subject: RE: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm


> I can only imagine the $$$ that went into that. Now I see where Red
> Cross money goes to..


From BeachGeek1@aol.com  Fri Oct 11 19:39:50 2002
From: BeachGeek1@aol.com (BeachGeek1@aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:39:50 EDT
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
Message-ID: <12d.18c13b74.2ad874f6@aol.com>

I am wondering why the Red Cross is in the communications business. Don't the 
local agencies handle this?


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From ranecurl@engin.umich.edu  Fri Oct 11 20:57:49 2002
From: ranecurl@engin.umich.edu (Rane Curl)
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:57:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Ares-races] Check out Red Cross Comm
In-Reply-To: <12d.18c13b74.2ad874f6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.44.0210111549390.16256-100000@green.engin.umich.edu>

On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 BeachGeek1@aol.com wrote:

> I am wondering why the Red Cross is in the communications business. Don't the
> local agencies handle this?

The Red Cross have to coordinate their own activities between (and within)
Shelters, mobile Disaster Action Teams and Damage Assessment teams, Mass
Care vehicles, local, regional and national headquarters, and of course
also with local agencies (emergency, fire and police). They have had
chapter Communications functions for a long time, often supported by ham
radio operators, although that function is much reduced recently by the
use of cell phones.

--Rane L. Curl   N8REG
  Past Red Cross chapter Communications Officer.



From transitbear@hotmail.com  Mon Oct 21 04:57:26 2002
From: transitbear@hotmail.com (Pete Greene)
Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 23:57:26 -0400
Subject: [Ares-races] Test Message
Message-ID: <F56Ctgx8VUkRacUtI9d00000352@hotmail.com>



Just trying to see if this goes out and comes back to me.
I have not seen anything from this list for a long time.

Pete Greene
N8WGE


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