[Ares-races] Packet] Now ???

Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:16:15 -0800

Hello Paul,

Not sure I understand the reference unless your referring to the Northridge
earthquake.  Don't know why it was called the Northridge as the epicenter
since there really was no epicenter.  Instead of being a horizontal
slippage, it was a vertical which caused the entire fault line, seven miles
down, slipped at one time.  The fault line began in the Pacific ocean,
through Santa Monica, under the Santa Monica Mountains, through the San
Fernando Valley (which is were Northridge is),under another mountain row,
through Simi Valley, through another mountain ridge and up through many very
old towns.  Only time in my life that I ever woke up four feet over the bed.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Cavnar" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Ares-races] Packet

> Howard -
>
> You ought to be well aware of this fact in Simi Valley.... ;)
>
> Paul - NN7B
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard Coleman" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ares-races] Packet
>
>
> > Don't tell a MARS operator that RTTY is gone.  The internet is a great
> > system but totally worthless it the telephones are out.  I spent almost
35
> > years in telecommunications and will guarantee that the phone system
> should
> > never be taken for granted.  While the offices are designed to survive
an
> > earthquake and remain functioning, it does not guarantee in any way that
> you
> > will get dial tone.  Central offices are normally designed to operate at
> > 120% or more.  This means that if every one picks up their phone to
report
> > an earthquake to the fire department of police (like the agencies don't
> > already know), only those with real fast reflexes will get dial tone.
> While
> > packet is "antiquated", it works regardless, as long as you have an
> > alternate power source.  Ever seen the internet when it gets real busy?
> > I'll take packet, APRS, RTTY, PSK31 or any other of the antiquated
> > communications source that is available.
> >
> >
> > 73 - Howard [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Problem is that since the internet has evolved, packet has gone the
way
> of
> > > RTTY. A thing of the past (so they say). That is a false sense of
> > security.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Howard Coleman
> > > Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 4:56 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [Ares-races] Packet
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Ralph,
> > >
> > > While rare, packet is alive.  I strongly agree that packet has great
> > > advantage over voice when requesting long lists of supplies or what
> ever.
> > > You may want to have a contact with Dave Gilmore AA6VH.  He is the DEC
> for
> > > the Ventura District of the Santa Barbara Section and usually can be
> found
> > > on this mailer or you can contact him at [email protected] .  All of the
> > > hospitals and a few other critical locations in the District are
> equipped
> > > with packet stations.
> > >
> > > 73 - Howard [email protected]
> > >
> > >
> > > Subject: [Ares-races] Packet
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm looking for input.
> > > >
> > > > Our municipal ARES-RACE group has been fooling around with packet
over
> > the
> > > > last couple of years.
> > > >
> > > > What we found was:
> > > >
> > > > 1. There are few other ARES-RACES units to talk to with packet ..
the
> > > > County or State OEMs don't seem to be into it. The Red Cross units
> don't
> > > > seem to have packet support from their ARES units. We'd more or less
> be
> > > > talking within our little group.
> > > >
> > > > 2. It would be hard to maintain a packet network locally .. we just
> > don't
> > > > have that many packet-capable and outfitted operators.
> > > >
> > > > We sense that packet or other digital modes might be useful in
> emergency
> > > > communications -- it's accurate, uses less frequency time, can run
> > > > unattended, suited for archiving and hard copy print-outs ---  but
> there
> > > > just doesn't seem to be "critical mass" of operators or interested
> > > > ARES/RACES units around here.
> > > >
> > > > What's it like elsewhere?
> > > > Is there a truly useful role for packet in emergencies (vs. voice)?
> > > > If you're using it successfully, how'd you do it?
> > > > Anybody have experience using packet in actual emergencies? for
what?
> > > > Is it worth it to keep working on "growing" packet?
> > > > Anything you can think of to help make it grow? ARRL support? easier
> > > > software? easier hardware?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Ralph KC2RLM
> > > >
> > > >
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