I've written on other reflectors that our navy ought to resurrect the use of the sextant due to the potential for GPS spoofing. While I'm at it, I'd also encourage reinstating HF into other comms used by our armed forces. You never know when a satellite jammer or killer might rear its ugly head.

73 de 
Gene Smar AD3F 

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On Sat, Dec 6, 2025 at 1:06 AM, JAMES FALLS
<radio-tuber@att.net> wrote:
It’s good that they’re not all gone in these days of increased GPS spoofing. 

Jim Falls K6FWT 

On Dec 5, 2025, at 15:13, Steve Miller <stevemillererie@hotmail.com> wrote:


Here is a PDF of pictures of CQD 372kc (top picture) and ER 349kc  (bottom) for the Erie International Airport.

Curious if anyone else logged them?

Both are QRT

73,


Steve WA3JJT


From: Steve Miller <stevemillererie@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 5, 2025 10:25 AM
To: Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com>
Cc: arc5@mailman.qth.net <arc5@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [ARC5] NDB’s
 
Hi Mark,
I’ll try to find those pictures.
I had to walk through someone’s back yard in Fairview PA to get the picture of ER.
I used to keep a log of stations and used some maps I got from the owner of Erie Airways that showed the NDB call signs and
locations. I heard a lot of Canadian NDBs across Lake Erie.
I got a look inside CQD once when the engineer was
doing some work and I happened to be passing by. No pictures though.

73, 

Steve WA3JJT




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On Dec 4, 2025, at 10:47 AM, Mark K3MSB <mark.k3msb@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Steve

I heard CQD 372 KC only once (5 Feb 2020 0435Z) and its last logging (by anyone) was on 11 Oct 2020, shortly before it was decommissioned.  As I recall, its operation was intermittent for the last year before it went dark.

ER 349 KC Was last heard in Feb 2016 and of course, it's long gone now.

No, those 52 stations are not new,  just "new" with the BC-453.   I have 771 NDBs in my master log (since Dec 2019), and it's unlikely I'll add many more to that.  But propagation can be fickle, and there are ships that come into the Gulf with Helipads that have shipboard NDBs....

73 Mark K3MSB



On Thu, Dec 4, 2025 at 7:02 AM Steve Miller <stevemillererie@hotmail.com> wrote:
Nice pix Mark!
I always enjoyed logging NDBs, but haven’t listened for years.
CQD and ER in Erie PA are QRT.
I have pictures somewhere.
You’ve inspired me to dig out the BC-453 and see
what I can hear!

We’re those 52 new stations for you Mark?

73!

Steve WA3JJT




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