The acft were C-53s to be sure. They did have sextant ports, as I now recall, but the old LORAN sets were the point if interest. But, yes, the T-29s with that row of domes running down the top of the pax area is very clear in the photo in the Nav training manual.
K3HVG JEEP

On 11/17/2021 6:30 PM D C _Mac_ Macdonald <[email protected]> wrote:


I have no idea as to whether C-47s were ever used as nav trainers
as we had T-29s when I went through nav school at Harlingen (TX)
AFB from Jun 61 through Feb 62.  We had LORAN receivers, drift
meters, radar altimeters, and plexiglass bubbles in the top of the
airframe to hang our bubble averaging sextants.


Local girls became expert in identifying navigational stars as they
accompanied officer and aviation cadet nav students practicing star
identification on blankets late at night!  I had a new (six months)
wife who got pretty good at it, too!  Still have the same one, almost 
61 years later (KA5BJS, ex-WN6DFR).
 
73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
(Since 30 Nov 53)
Oklahoma City, OK
USAF, Ret'd 61-81
FAA, Ret'd 94-10
 
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Well, my first contact with C-47 and C-53 aircraft were in the late 50's. As a CAP cadet we flew to Wright-Patt and two of us were permitted to activate the ARC-8 setup. The trailing wire antenna got jammed reeled out coming back to Andrews.  We also scrounged crystals from the ARC-3 radios in several being worked over at ADW. All had the installations for the ARC-8, but radios were removed. In the late 60's I got some logable right seat time in C-47s, also at Andrew's. These, again, had racks for ARC-8, but radios pulled. Comms were UHF.  I recall these must have been ex-nav trainers as there were probably 6-8 LORAN positions in the pax area. The last C-53 I rode in was one belonging to LACSA and operated by Cayman Airlines. It was our air taxi from Swan Island to Cayman. The radio position was re-done and usually had engine parts stored there. Oh well... < /span>
Jeep K3HVG
On 11/17/2021 3:37 PM [email protected] wrote:


The only "C-47" I ever saw an AN/ART-13 in was an R4D.

Steve Gomez

Ke5o

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Pre and very early war aircraft were often 12-14 VDC and they used the
BC-191 and BC-224 and often the SCR-183 for command.

The early war C-47's through, as a guess, late 44/early 45 used the
BC-375/BC-348 before they changed to the ART-13/BC-348.

For what it is worth, I haven't seen any documentation showing the ART-13 in
B-24's.

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The B-24 flight manuals I have, or have seen, all indicate the BC-375 and
BC-348 as the liaison HF set. C-47s had the ART-13 setup as did the B-29
and other late-in-the-war heavy aircraft.
On 11/17/2021 6:50 AM [email protected] wrote:


I recall reading that when a radio in the C-47 that came to inspect the
wreck failed they replaced it with one from the B-24 and it worked fine.
One article said the radio was an ARC-1, which I very much doubt. I don't
think that aircraft of that vintage, nor USAAF or USAF aircraft at any time
had the ARC-1 installed. Maybe a SCR-522, or a BC-348 or one of the
SCR-274-N sets would be possible. Anyone ever read anything more accurate
on this incident?
Wayne
WB5WSV
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