[ARC5] Surplus Missile Disposal

Sun Mar 10 19:03:58 EDT 2024

No problem at all, especially if the log books are with the engines, which means they can still be used…

Some years ago the engine containers came with P&W 985 and 1340 engines… all depended on who you had load the containers.

The better deal is empty NVG boxes… they come with about 10% complete with the NVGs…

It is just your tax dollars at work…

Beats some of the DLA practices of destroying/forcing by inspection the destruction or render as scrap new tools, drill bits, cutters, Boeing aircraft parts (for the brand new p8).  Keeps the tax dollars going after a larger deficit…

Go buy a few containers, you might get lucky and be able to put a small jet engine in your VW.. or “win” a new set of NVG…

R

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Subject: Re: [ARC5] Surplus Missile Disposal

If jet engines and rocket motors are being found by civilian buyers of these containers  intact inside the surplus storage containers that were sold as empty, obviously a lot is being missed, and whole units are coming on the open, unregulated market intact.  HUGE PROBLEM!!!

Mark D. 

WW2RDO

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On Mar 10, 2024, at 5:34 PM, scottjohnson1 <scottjohnson1 at cox.net <mailto:scottjohnson1 at cox.net> > wrote:

Missiles are dimantled at Camp Navajo in Arizona, propellansts are stored and destroyed, along with conventional warheads. There may be other disposal centers as well.  Nuclear warheads go elsewhere for disposal.  I don't  think any missiles are ever sold intact. 

If you ate lucky, you might get a nearly intact gyro, or maybe a fuselage section.

Scott W7SVJ 

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Date: 3/10/24 07:56 (GMT-07:00) 

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Subject: Re: [ARC5] Surplus Missile Disposal 

Nike Zeus, Nike Hercules and Nike Ajax are systems that came onboard in the 1950s-1960s.  They are obsolete. But those surplus Missile sales need to be VERY closely monitored. What happens if folks sympathetic to Iran get a hold this stuff?  It’s old, but with a little TLC, this stuff would still work.  I don’t like the idea of long range missile parts being sold to civilian industry.  Too much can go very wrong, very fast. 

Mark D. 

“In matters of style, float with the current. In matters of Principle, stand like a rock. “.   -   Thomas Jefferson 

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On Mar 10, 2024, at 10:27 AM, releazer at earthlink.net <mailto:releazer at earthlink.net>  wrote:

Relative to missile disposal I was told that they were shutting down the Nike sites and farmer in Mass. bought one of the circular drum type missile storage containers as surplus.  The containers are similar to those used for jet engines storage and transportation and are popular with farmers as feed bins.  He got the thing home and then called the Air Force to say, "There is a gol danged missile in this thing!"

Much the same thing occurred at Tinker AFB when a rancher bought a jet engine cannister at a surplus auction, got it home, and found there was jet engine in it.

As a result of the Commercial Space Launch Act of 1984 the DoD was required to offer surplus missiles to commercial industry.  Numerous Nike and Talos missile motors were converted for experimental sounding rocket use and the CSLA eventually meant that NASA could no longer do that work themselves but had to hire private contractors to do so.  

Wayne
WB5WSV 
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