[ARC5] German Avionics Video

Tim timsamm at gmail.com
Sun Jun 23 21:50:50 EDT 2024


I had some time to examine a MIG-29 at Nellis AFB.  It was a combination of
high quality design elegance plus a lot of real crap.  Elegant where the
supersonic slipstream needed to be in laminar flow, quality IR optics and
AR coatings, rugged landing gear - coupled with real hammer work on the
stainless steel after body parts where drag would be bad anyway.  The
cannon blast shield (muzzle brake?) looked like it was cast from aluminum
beer cans melted on Babushka's wood stove and then hammered into shape with
a rock but I bet the gun did the job.

They put the effort/$ where it was really needed but stopped there...
Tim
N6CC

On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 6:21 PM Dale Dell'Ario <ddellario at msn.com> wrote:

> Once when working for SpaceLabs, I went to Hillsboro OR and on break paid
> a visit to the airport where there was a MIG fighter on the tarmac and a
> HUGE transport plane with equally huge landing gear, something like six or
> eight wheels per side on a common axle which rotated and folded into a bay
> on each side of the fuselage that was airstreamed along the entire length
> of the plane.  Looking up under the wing of the MIG I saw an open panel and
> some electronics modules with miniature tubes plugged in and not sure even
> with wire retainers.  For cable ties there were shoelace sized leather
> strips instead of that gut that we and the Germans used…… simple,
> effective, rustic.
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> Dale
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> *From:* psara_seattle at googlegroups.com <psara_seattle at googlegroups.com> *On
> Behalf Of *Tim
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2024 4:41 PM
> *To:* Clare Owens <clare.owens at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Hubert Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com>; psara_seattle at googlegroups.com;
> ARC-5 List <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> *Subject:* Re: [ARC5] German Avionics Video
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> It's true...
>
> One "Russian" design philosophy that I often resonate with is this:  "Make
> it simple, rugged and functional - and repairable by any peasant with a
> hammer."  I can relate to that part!
>
> Tim
>
> N6CC
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> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 4:23 PM Clare Owens <clare.owens at gmail.com> wrote:
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> A couple of comments/
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> First, we had some extremely complex electromechanical devices in wide
> use.  The Norden bomb sight comes to mind.
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> Second, for quite a long time the life expectancy of any war plane in WW
> II was quite short, so the complex equipment did not have to last very long.
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> Clare. N2RJB
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> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 7:13 PM Tim <timsamm at gmail.com> wrote:
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> As Stalin supposedly said "Quantity has a quality all its own."
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> The Germans were making a few Mercedes Benz's, we were making lots of
> Chevy's ...
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> Tim
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> N6CC
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> On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 3:51 PM Hubert Miller <kargo_cult at msn.com> wrote:
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> I felt initially that "poor us", so stuck with conventional 1930s tech, in
> second place. But then i thought about the ART-13 10 channel Autotune (
> automatic retuning ) aircraft transmitter ( dating to 1939 ), the BC-348
> aircraft receiver, the BC-1000 FM backpack radio, microwave radar, High
> Frequency direction finding with CRT display, radar jamming equipment,
> proximity fuse anti aircraft shells, and so on, PLUS early models of
> computer to decipher German codes. German workmanship is
> impressive,but...at some point you have to do a cost - benefit analysis and
> realize a whole lot of wonderfully mechanically engineered stuff is bound
> to have a rather short service life...
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> Sent from my Galaxy
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