[ARC5] How Edwin Armstrong invented the superhet
William Cromwell
wrcromwell at gmail.com
Sat Jan 7 13:36:13 EST 2023
Hi Chris,
Thanks for shedding even more light. The regens I have are the RAK (made
by RCA) that you mentioned and a National SW-3 with one RF amp ahead of
the detector. The RF amps are not needed for amplification but do offer
some 'out-of-band selectivity and more important to isolate the detector
from the antenna. I have used regens with no amplifier ahead of the
detector and that isolation is *valuable*.
73,
Bill KU8H
bark less - wag more
On 1/7/23 13:04, Christopher Bowne wrote:
> Surprised that people are forgetting how relatively easy it is to
> detect CW (and when it came along, SSB) with a regenerative detector.
> As others has mentioned, regenerative detectors were just about
> universally used with simple one or
> two stages of RF amplification ahead of the regenerative detector, and
> even with no amplification stage ahead of the detector. I was puzzled
> by the comment that one could not DF with a TRF receiver. Regardless
> of whether or not an IF stage was used in
> a superheterodyne or whether the detection was performed at the signal
> frequency, DF, at least by use of a steerable loop antenna to
> determine the null in a signal level of a transmitter of interest can
> either be done on a CW signal with either a regenerative detector or
> BFO operating at either the signal frequency or an IF frequency. Low
> frequency radio beacons used to, and where still active, send their
> station ID and sometimes long dashes using MCW tone modulation of a
> steady carrier so they could be received by receivers that did not
> have a BFO or regenerative detector.
>
> The 1930s vintage design RAK VLF/LF
> receiver is a TRF receiver with two stages of TRF amplification and a
> regenerative detector. It has very high selectivity over its entire
> 15 kHz to 600 kHz, obviously hugest at the lowest frequencies, and
> comparablen contemporary superhets using the common nominal 455 kHz IF
> frequencies of the day.
>
> It’s follow on RBA in WW2 was also a TRF was also a TRF design,
> although I believe it used a tracking RF oscillator at the signal
> frequency for a BFO. I believe the injection level of the RBA was
> adjustable to prevent overwhelming the incoming signal that was to be
> detected.
>
> Chris AJ1G Stonington CT
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 7, 2023, at 11:44, Al Klase <ark at ar88.net> wrote:
>>
>> OK, let me take a whack at this.
>> We have to go back to the WWI era. Most radio operations were taking
>> place well below 1 MHz. Communication receivers we generally crystal
>> sets connected to large wire antennas. There was a need for
>> direction-finding on enemy transmitters. That required a loop
>> antenna, but the output was too low to work with a crystal set or
>> even a one-tube regen.
>>
>> W-AEF-1.PNG
>> The solution was multi-tube amplifiers. The French had a leg up here
>> having produced the first mass produced tube, the "TM" valve. See
>> also R. J. Round and the Brit DF "B-Stations."
>>
>> W-AEF-2.PNG
>>
>> PIC00008.jpg
>> French amp among the Armstrong artifacts at the former Ft. Monmouth
>> museum.
>>
>> Armstrong was working at the Division of Research and Inspection in
>> Paris. This was in effect an AT&T laboratory.
>>
>> To get amplification at HF frequencies, where the existing tubes
>> didn't have much gain, he leveraged his knowledge of heterodyne
>> frequency conversion gained from his work with the regenerative
>> receivers. He built a tunable frequency converter to feed a French
>> amplifier operating at about 100 KHz. The circuit was originally
>> called the supersonic (now we say ultrasonic) heterodyne circuit,
>> where the incoming signal in not converted to audio, but to an
>> intermediate RF frequency.
>>
>> Hope the pix come through.
>>
>> Al
>>
>> ARK Sig Block Al Klase - N3FRQ
>> Jersey City, NJ
>> http://www.skywaves.ar88.net/
>> On 1/7/2023 7:37 AM, releazer at earthlink.net wrote:
>>
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