[ARC5] Alligator clip leads

Gene Smar ersmar at verizon.net
Tue Nov 30 20:19:06 EST 2021


[Palm to forehead!]  I should have tried the usual suspects (epay, 
Amazon, etc.) but didn't believe such leads would be available in new 
packaging.  Thanks for these suggestions.  I will now attempt to confirm 
that my 260 (series E) can use the shrouded banana connectors.  My 
initial inspection shows what I think are shroud-compatible jacks in all 
test lead connectors on the meter case.  I'd prefer to have this feature 
for HV protection.

Also, I will certainly not connect any of the leads to an energized HV 
point (I'm contemplating buying or building a 500-600 W amp) but only to 
a dead rig.  Then apply power and keep both hands in my pockets while I 
read the meter.

Thanks to all who replied.

73 de
Gene Smar  AD3F


On 11/29/2021 1:46 PM, Gene Smar wrote:
> Speaking of such clips, does anyone know where I can get new (NEW) 
> test leads for my yet-to-be-repaired Simpson 260?  The front panel has 
> separate HV inputs for 5kV AC and DC and I'm not going to trust the 
> leads that came with this meter when I bought it at a hamfest.
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> 73 de
> Gene Smar  AD3F
>
>
> On 11/27/2021 5:53 PM, kn7sfz wrote:
>> Last year, I took the time to collect all the alligator clips, 
>> jumpers, etc., broken or otherwise that I have accumulated over the 
>> years, plus all the decent wire I had and used them to make a bunch 
>> of usable jumpers.  I soldered ALL of them and ended up with a 
>> cornucopia of jumpers small to large. I then mounted them in a scrap 
>> piece of cable tray next to my work bench so I can grab whatever I 
>> need whenever I need.
>>
>> Enjoy the crude pics.
>>
>> Richard kn7sfz
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/27/2021 2:41 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>>> I second this. One can still buy decent alligator clips (and 
>>> crocodile clips, they are not the same) and can get extra flexible 
>>> test lead wire from the larger suppliers. Crimping is often not very 
>>> reliable and the cheap commercial leads I've gotten often break at 
>>> the clip or have poor connections there. Bad tools of any sort are a 
>>> PITA.
>>>
>>> On 11/27/2021 11:43 AM, Paul Thekan wrote:
>>>> I've always made up my own clip leads.
>>>> I have some from Radio Shack I bought 30+ years ago that are still 
>>>> good and many of the test leads I made in HS are still doing fine 
>>>> after 50yrs...and counting.
>>>> Paul
>>>> N6FEG
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 27, 2021, 11:27 AM Mike Feher <n4fs at eozinc.com 
>>>> <mailto:n4fs at eozinc.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     I have struggled with the same problem Steve. Wound up
>>>>     soldering all those clips where the crimps often only crimped
>>>>     the insulation or were intermittent. 73 – Mike ____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     Mike B. Feher, N4FS____
>>>>
>>>>     89 Arnold Blvd.____
>>>>
>>>>     Howell NJ 07731____
>>>>
>>>>     848-245-9115____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     *From:* arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> <mailto:arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>     <arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> <mailto:arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net>> *On Behalf Of *Steve
>>>>     WD8DAS via ARC5
>>>>     *Sent:* Saturday, November 27, 2021 1:55 PM
>>>>     *To:* arc5 at mailman.qth.net <mailto:arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>     *Subject:* [ARC5] Alligator clip leads____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     Over the years I've been frustrated by failures of alligator
>>>>     clip leads.  Nothing is worse than thinking the device under
>>>>     test has a problem when in fact it turns out a bad test lead
>>>>     that are the issue. ____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     This has only gotten worse in recent years, as most of the
>>>>     commercially-available clip leads have become complete
>>>>     junk:   A few strands of weird metal inside stiff plastic
>>>>     insulation, with cheaply-made alligator clips loosely clamped
>>>>     (not even crimped) on the ends. ____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     My old leads are wearing out so a couple weeks ago I bought
>>>>     some new clip leads from a reputable vendor.  They turned out
>>>>     to be the worst ever - half of the leads had no continuity
>>>>     right out of the package.  I tried soldering the wires to the
>>>>     clips but the few strands of wire did not seem to want to
>>>>     take solder - very odd stuff.  I trashed them and went on a
>>>>     search for good test leads.  I first sought good test-lead
>>>>     wire and clips to make my own - the minimum quantity of the
>>>>     wire was  too high.____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     I found some ready-made leads from Cal-Test Electronics. I
>>>>     asked and confirmed they are made from real test lead wire,
>>>>     soldered to good quality clips: ____
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://app.caltestelectronics.com/product-list/product-page/view/CT2394/ 
>>>>
>>>> <https://app.caltestelectronics.com/product-list/product-page/view/CT2394/> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     and bought them from DigiKey, but others sell them as well:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cal-test-electronics/CT2394/5028475 
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/cal-test-electronics/CT2394/5028475>____ 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>> https://www.tequipment.net/Cal-Test/CT2394/Alligator-Test-Leads/
>>>> <https://www.tequipment.net/Cal-Test/CT2394/Alligator-Test-Leads/>____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>> https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cal-Test-Electronics/CT2394?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtJbfcMcIM8CEmjI6%2FR0hxQbyY9pD4jm%252Bw%3D 
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cal-Test-Electronics/CT2394?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtJbfcMcIM8CEmjI6%2FR0hxQbyY9pD4jm%252Bw%3D> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     They are more expensive than the junk, but the two packs I
>>>>     received show the quality I was seeking. ____
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     __ __
>>>>
>>>>     Steve WD8DAS
>>>>
>>>> sbjohnston at aol.com <mailto:sbjohnston at aol.com>
>>>> http://www.wd8das.net/ <http://www.wd8das.net/>____
>>>>
>>>> http://af4k-crystals.com <http://af4k-crystals.com>____
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