[ARC5] [Milsurplus] DAG HFDF Sense Antenna.

Bart Lee bart.lee.k6vk at gmail.com
Sat Apr 3 16:40:17 EDT 2021


Hi Mike,

Thanks for responding!  A couple of people had the schematic and some data,
so I now have something to go on.

73 de Bart, K6VK ##
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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:23 AM Mike Feher <n4fs at eozinc.com> wrote:

> Hi Bart –
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> Sorry, cannot help you with that. 73 – Mike
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> Mike B. Feher, N4FS
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> 89 Arnold Blvd.
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> *From:* Bart Lee <bart.lee.k6vk at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 3, 2021 12:20 AM
> *To:* Mike Feher <n4fs at eozinc.com>
> *Cc:* Hubert Miller <Kargo_cult at msn.com>; milsurplus at mailman <
> milsurplus at mailman.qth.net>; ARC-5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [ARC5] [Milsurplus] DAG HFDF Sense Antenna.
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> Mike and all, do you have any idea where I can get a manual or schematic
> for the sonobuoy receiver (WW II ) ARR3, FM 55 +- MHz to 75 +- MHz ? The radio
> awaits tender loving care...
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> 73 de Bart, K6VK ##
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> Bart Lee, K6VK, CHRS Archivist & Fellow, AWA Fellow, ARRL Liaison
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> On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:38 PM Mike Feher <n4fs at eozinc.com> wrote:
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> I worked on ASW (Anti-Submarine Warfare) systems from the late 60’s to the
> mid 80’s. We used a similar principle in the DIFAR sonobuoy system, where
> we had an omni sensor device and an E/W and N/S sensor. The Omni was used
> to resolve the ambiguity. Multiple buoys with statistical processing could
> give a very accurate bearing of a sub. This was a totally passive system.
> Looking at doppler, we could also estimate the CPA (Closest Point of
> Approach) and speed. This was depicted in the movie Red October. 73 – Mike
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> Mike B. Feher, N4FS
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> 89 Arnold Blvd.
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> Howell NJ 07731
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> 848-245-9115
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net <arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On
> Behalf Of Hubert Miller
> Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 1:54 PM
> To: milsurplus at mailman.qth.net; ARC-5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] [Milsurplus] DAG HFDF Sense Antenna.
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> > The 180 degree ambiguity is impossible to resolve without that sense
> antenna, BTW
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> Is this strictly true? If the loop is not balanced to ground, has one side
> grounded?
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> Granted, the pattern may be less marked, but it does indicate
> directionality.
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> I feel I vaguely recall  an actual commercial application of this fact.
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> -Hue Miller
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