[ARC5] B-17 Crash Near Hartford CT

Mark K3MSB mark.k3msb at gmail.com
Fri Oct 4 00:21:48 EDT 2019


NTSB Press Briefing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoLU-I6C4Uo#action=share

Pilot radioed ATC they had a problem with an engine.  NTSB has the engine.
Fuel sample in right wing -- 100 LL
A/C made initial contact with the approach lights about 1000 ft from
threshold end of RWY 06;  hit 30 approach lights total.

73 Mark K3MSB



On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 8:52 PM Peter Gottlieb <kb2vtl at gmail.com> wrote:

> The NTSB investigators are very good and I'm sure they will be thorough
> and
> figure out what happened.
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 10/3/2019 8:45 PM, CARL HUETHER wrote:
> >
> > I suspect a very few (thankfully) on here are fueled with adult
> beverages and
> > are unable to control their fat mouth from spewing venom.
> >
> >
> >
> >> On October 3, 2019 at 7:54 PM Peter Gottlieb <kb2vtl at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well like one person suggested, it may have been fueled with jet-a.
> Easy to
> >> determine.
> >>
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>> On Oct 3, 2019, at 7:18 PM, Mike Bracey <mikebracey at att.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It sounds like the pilot might have stalled the plane trying to make
> it back
> >>> back to the field. The mystery is why was he losing power. A B-17 will
> fly
> >>> all day on 3 engines. The first rule is fly the plane. After control
> is
> >>> established, cut the fuel to the bad engine, feather the prop and pull
> the
> >>> fire bottle. Then make the pattern to a normal landing. Most air
> disasters
> >>> are caused by a sequence of events rather than one thing. I'm thinking
> this
> >>> will be the same. It will be interesting to see what the investigation
> turns up.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> KE5YTV
> >>>
> >>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 3:18:03 PM CDT, Richard Knoppow
> >>> <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>     Yes, this makes sense. I meant only that a single engine
> >>> going out does not sound like running out of fuel although it
> >>> could still be a fuel problem such as a leak or something else
> >>> that would prevent fuel from getting to the engine. Might also
> >>> account for the fire.
> >>>
> >>> On 10/3/2019 12:59 PM, gordon white wrote:
> >>> > Engine failure on takeoff is not usually from running out of oil,
> >>> > but maximum power used  briefly on takeoff (METO) is more than
> >>> > allowed for cruise, and takeoff power does stress an engine. A
> >>> > cylinder on a radial can come loose from the crankcase, or a
> >>> > piston break. I was on a DC-7 that lost an engine and it was
> >>> > pretty scary. The unbalanced forces from losing an engine are
> >>> > difficult to control. The pilot has to feather the dead engine,
> >>> > deploy the fire extinguishers (and not feather the wrong engine)
> >>> > in a very brief period of time. Some light twins, if you lose one
> >>> > engine on takeoff you can be flipped upside down if you don't cut
> >>> > the other one.
> >>> >
> >>> >   - Gordon White
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Richard Knoppow
> >>> 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
> >>> WB6KBL
> >>>
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