I meant to add that I think the VOA may also have used Kahn's system. Not sure and don't remember where I saw this. On 2/25/2018 2:02 PM, Tom Lee wrote: > I never knew about Kahn's pudding patent. That's hilarious. > > Thanks, Richard! > > --Cheers, > Tom > -- Richard Knoppow 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com WB6KBL