[ARC5] OT The BC-659- what were they thinking?
D C _Mac_ Macdonald
k2gkk at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 2 11:30:28 EDT 2016
No dit, shick tracy!!
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* 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5 *
* (Since 30 Nov 53) *
* Oklahoma City, OK *
* USAF, Ret'd 61-81 *
** FAA, Ret'd 94-10 *
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( Once B-52 aircrew )
> From: releazer at earthlink.net
> To: arc5 at ix.netcom.com
> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2016 10:34:49 -0400
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] OT The BC-659- what were they thinking?
> CC: arc5 at mailman.qth.net
>
> Dave:
>
> I recall hearing that in the early days in Afghanistan, when B-52's were
> striking targets entirely based on what the local FACs on the ground as well
> as smaller USAF and USN aircraft told them to do, there were complaints that
> this mode of operation "left nothing for the Wing staffs to do." They
> should be overjoyed that airpower is so successful that the whole rest of
> the US Miltary are serving as FACs for the USAF, but instead they are
> focused on their own careers and "what they were trained to do." And I can
> tell you that after 25 years on active duty in the USAF, including over 4
> years in the Pentagon, that sounds all too believable.
>
> Wayne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Stinson" <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Robert Eleazer" <releazer at earthlink.net>; "Dennis DuValll"
> <w7qho at aol.com>
> Cc: <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 9:53 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] OT The BC-659- what were they thinking?
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Robert Eleazer" <releazer at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: [ARC5] OT The BC-659- what were they thinking?
> >
> >
> >>Note that the idea of ground troops talking to the aircraft to do FAC
> >>duties was an alien one for most of the war....
> >>it sure took them a long time to do what seems blindingly obvious today.
> >
> > Alas; maybe not so obvious today.
> > The fear of the "ivory tower" boys that "some private
> > will start calling in air strikes," requiring support requests
> > to get chewed up-and-down two or more food-chains before any actions are
> > taken can still happen today.
> >
> > I"m sure many of you heard about the "accidental strike"
> > our air forces conducted on a "Doctors Without Borders"
> > hospital. The investigation concluded that one of the contributing
> > factors was the inability of ground forces
> > to speak directly to their air support. Not the first and
> > sadly not the last blood spilled over this ancient and
> > ongoing mistake. Some things just never sink-in.
> >
> > I feel confident in calling this a "mistake" because the
> > grunts continue to find ways around it (SCR-522 in tanks) and it works
> > well when they do. But far-away commanders in air-conditioned offices...
> > well....
> >
> > 73 DE Dave AB5S
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