Not only that Dennis, but, they are all experts, but none of them were there. 73 - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 732-886-5960 Truly amazing the twists and turns a thread can take (and it's still going...... :^) Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA