[ARC5] Tradesmen & nouns

[john rose]

That ‘nail punch’ is called a ‘nail set’ per my old Household Maniacs…..errr Household Mechanics teacher Mr. Charnes. Nail punch is very descriptive though.

That ‘hollow punch’ is probably the type used in crafts and dressmaking to make holes, hence is (I think) still named a ‘hole punch’. No jokes about drinking the ‘whole punch bowl’.

In these parts the devices used to make holes in paper are called ‘hole punches’ or ‘paper punches’.

I might be getting a bit punchy.






From: Leslie Smith
Sent: ‎Wednesday‎, ‎November‎ ‎26‎, ‎2014 ‎10‎:‎54‎ ‎AM
To: john rose





  Hello John,
  It's nice to see precision used in  language.
  I've always used the word "punch" to refer to something I hit with a
  hammer.
  So I have a (pointed) center punch, and a (flat-nosed) nail punch, or
  a 'hollow' punch to make round flat objects.
  However, defer to your father's knowledge, since he was a tradesman.
  Tradesmen generally the correct noun for the tools they use.
  
  I notice (with interest) that older English words often carry a
  precision missing from more modern English.
  
  73 de Les Smith
  vk2bcu at operamail.com


On Wed, Nov 26, 2014, at 11:53, john rose wrote:
> My father, a tool and die man, pointed out that a drift (he called it a
> drift pin, that’s Canadian for ya’) has a flat face, a punch has a point.
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> From: Scott Johnson
> Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎November‎ ‎25‎, ‎2014 ‎7‎:‎37‎ ‎PM
> To: AKLDGUY ., arc5
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> No, It is also in common use in the US, "use a drift to remove that roll
> pin", sometimes referred to as a drift punch.
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> Scott W7SVJ
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> > Note Mike's point about "brass".  The metal "hitter" should be softer 
> > than the "hitee" (i.e. the dyno shaft.) Don't hit steel with steel!  - 
> > Les
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> Good advice.
> In my earlier days when I overhauled car engines and gearboxes, the
> "hitter"
> was referred to as a drift. I see on Wikipedia that that's the name for a
> hole alignment tool, and no mention is made of an impulse inflicting
> tool.
> 
> Perhaps "drift" was a term unique to the UK/British Commonwealth when
> used
> in that sense?
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> 73 de Neil ZL1ANM
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