[ARC5] Receiver AC Power Supplies
Bill Cromwell
wrcromwell at gmail.com
Sat Dec 13 18:55:46 EST 2014
Hi Roy,
Thanks for all of that info. I'll definitely be looking for another
variac and using it to control the line voltage in my shack as you have
outlined with a bucking transformer. That will allow me to keep the one
I already have for use on my workbench where it could also be pressed
into service as needed to power a boat anchor.
As for the voltmeter I just happen to have an AC volmeter that indicates
from 50 Volts AC to 150 volts AC. As soon as I saw that scale I knew
what it was for. I don't have to fuss with diodes or resistors, etc -
they're already in it. I am building my variac (presently wired for
"overvoltage") into a wooden cabinet and that meter will be included.
There will also be an outlet to conveniently plug in the 'load'.
I have a big honking transformer from an automotive battery
charger/cranking supply that provides something north of 18 volts AC
with huge secondary wires. That is earmarked for a new life in a "12
volt" DC supply for those um... sand state radios. <ducking and
running>. Too bad it won't help me control the entire house.
73,
Bill KU8H
On 12/13/2014 05:56 PM, Roy Morgan wrote:
> Bill. Good idea. Consider getting a 12 volt 20 amp transformer (maybe
> 10 amps is enough) and running it in bucking mode from a 2 amp variac.
> Add a voltmeter and current meter and you have a very handy bench
> accessory or total-shack voltage control system. There is no need to
> have a variac big enough to run the entire shack. The small variac
> running the line input to the low voltage bucking transformer gives
> you plenty of current capability and the ability to set the output
> voltage where you want, even if the house line voltage changes with
> time of day or season. A 7.5 volt filament transformer from the 1940’s
> days of 7.5 volt transmitting tubes is pretty much ideal, especially
> if you run the variac in over-voltage mode to get more than 7.5 volts
> maximum bucking voltage. The ultimate gadget for this situation is the
> General Radio 1570A Automatic Line Voltage Regulator. It handles up to
> 50 amps (for the low range of input voltage) and 25 amps for larger
> range of variations. It’s automatic (has a thyratron-driven motor in
> there) and weighs nearly 60 pounds in the rack mount case. If you ever
> see one at a fest, negotiate with a sympathetic approach. It may be
> offered with an “I *really* don’t want to take this home again”
> attitude. To encourage the Radio Gods arrange for you to find one,
> bring your wheeled luggage carrier with you to all hamfests. This
> thing will solve all your line voltage adjustment problems. Get spare
> 2D21’s when you can. Note that a normal variac meant for 115 volts
> used in over-voltage mode (most are set up that way) can put out 145
> volts if turned all the way up. There are two ways to solve his
> danger: move the input tap in the variac to apply the 120 volt line to
> the correct turn on the core, or set it up with the input to the end
> of the winding to avoid over-voltage altogether. The sola regulator
> approach is also valid. The larger of these things can be noisy and
> make a lot of heat, even at low current loading. I suspect that if the
> output voltage is not low enough for you, a bucking transformer, or
> perhaps a few turns of wire on the transformer itself in bucking mode
> would work fine. If you want to take any of these approaches to
> regulating the 220/240 volt feed to your linear, be cautious. If your
> transmitter uses 120 volts from the neutral to one side of the line,
> you can’t use a simple variac or Sola. I have here a monster
> three-unit 400 cycle Variac that would manage lots of power if adapted
> to the 240 volt situation. A 120 volt, 400 cycle variac will run ok up
> to its rated current on (60/400)x120 volts or 18 volts. Any one in
> western Mass have some 18 volt 20 amp transformers? As to simply
> measuring the line voltage: I have a Weston Model 433 AC Voltmeter (0
> to 150 volts AC) here that tells me the line voltage. It’s nice to
> have a mirrored scale moving needle instrument of rather ancient
> vintage to watch. I have a soft spot in my attitude toward these 400
> series mirrored scale Weston meters. Short of that, consider a zener
> diode with rectifier to establish a hundred volt reference and a DC
> meter with scale 0 to 25 (or 0 to 50) measuring the line voltage
> referenced to the 100 volts. This gets you a nice easy to read 100 to
> 125 volt indication. You’d need to mess with the resistors depending
> on your meter to keep the zener happy and to get the indication just
> right. See this link: http://sound.westhost.com/articles/meters.htm#5
> the section "5.0 - Expanded Scale Voltmeter” for some useful details.
> The car battery voltage version described might not be too accurate at
> voltages down near 10, but you really don’t need that. If you scale
> the parts to run on line voltage, and add a rectifier, this will not
> be a problem (the rectified voltage will be much above the 100 volt
> zener reference level). I have had one of those RCA WV-120A "Power
> Line Monitor” meters. It has a moving vane movement and an expanded
> scale that displays the 100 to 140 volts range, but I tore my hair out
> trying to get it calibrated. The thing would change its calibration as
> it heated up and drove me nuts. When I got it just right and put it
> back into its case, it went out of calibration again. They *look* like
> a very neat gadget but you may want to pass it up unless you see one
> at a fest that’s really cheap. If it’s cheap enough and you are
> willing to calibrate it and leave it running, one can be useful
> though. For a picture, details, and calibration procedure, see: <
> http://www.indianaradios.com/RCA%20WV-120A%20Power%20Line%20Monitor.htm>
> It could be that my example had some problem causing the trouble. Of
> course you can order a $25 plug-in gadget to be mailed to you from the
> Far East that gives you a lighted digital readout, but they are not
> boat-anchor-ish in any way. Happy voltage adjusting to all! Roy Roy
> Morgan RoyMorgan at alum.mit.edu K1LKY Since 1958 .
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