[ARC5] Disabled subscriptions to ARC5

[J Mcvey via ARC5]

I think they will eventually catch up with you no matter what address you use.
Lists are what is called "legacy" in the computer world. Most lists have moved to "groups", such as Yahoo groups, which is free to set up and use as the designated "meeting place". You have the option to get list -like mailings , digests, or just go to the group site . You have to be accepted as a member by the moderator to join in most cases, but it can also be set up as an open forum. 

As an additional bonus, the members can easily share pictures by uploading them to the site.


I think this move by the providers is aimed at encouraging people to move to groups where the providers can better control the throughput and redundant bounced mail.

You might try talking to the webmaster at QTH and see if he is willing to ad a category called ARC5 to his chat room BBS, but that would be an open forum, I believe, unless he can set it up with different permissions.


Another way is to set up a an actual fully owned and maintained forum which is probably not an option.

There's some ideas thrown at the wall...



On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:15 AM, Randy <hamradio at oz.net> wrote:
 


Folks:

The large email providers, such as Yahoo, AOL, Gmail, Facebook, Hotmail,
Compuserve, etc., have adopted or are considering new software which is
designed to reduce spam.  Some of us have heard about this over the past few
months.  But the new software has its problems.

Today I received a large number of disabled account notices from the qth.net
mail server based on excessive bounced mail.  It looks like AOL (who also
owns CompuServe and CS) implemented this new "feature" yesterday and all
AOL, Compuserve, and CS mail accounts are no longer accepting list email, at
least from qth.net. AOL now considers messages from many listservers,
including ARC5 (and probably all qth.net lists) as spam.  When AOL sees a
message from ARC5, for example, its new rules define it as spam and it
bounces the mail back to the ARC5 mail server.  After so many refused
messages the ARC5 server gives up and unsubscribes you.  Neither I nor the
ARC5 servers at qth.net are operating any differently than we ever have; AOL
is the one now doing the bouncing.  This has been discussed at length around
the internet in recent weeks although perhaps not much on the ARC5 list.  

Here is a link to a more detailed explanation posted on the TAPR site:

http://tapr.org/tapr_sigs.html


I am told that one solution is to use a different email address.  For
example, set up a free email account at another provider or at ARRL.ORG (for
example).  Have your lists, such as ARC5, go to that address (which will not
bounce it back to AOL).  Then you can have ARRL.ORG forward messages on to
your normal AOL address.  That way they will not appear as coming from an
"offending" list server and should not be bounced by AOL.  Forwarded mail is
apparently treated differently from list mail from the list servers.

I know this is a nuisance but many, many folks are having the same problem
right now.  Maybe the big boys will eventually figure out how to fix it.
The smaller ISPs apparently are not part of the club and most are not using
the new software and their users are not having the problem.

Anyway, that is my understanding of the problem.  Perhaps someone else can
clarify or offer a better solution.


Randy, W7HR
ARC5 list admin


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