[ARC5] T-17 on eBay crying in my beer

Sat Aug 2 09:41:42 EDT 2014

Interesting question....maybe you should keep a log....how many projects an you complete after age 72? But I think we have to get really specific about what the word "complete" means...
73 de N3RHT

On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:21 PM, Tom Bridgers <tarheel6 at msn.com> wrote:

Wanted to fess up too.  Also saw this gem, and was very tempted to bid. But didn't because I thought the pa Padder had been hacked AND it looked like the pa variable cap was out of round probably due to missing or broken insulators. Then I figured the VFO coil had been hacked...  So I didn't bid either.

My consoling thought is that I'm so far behind in my ARC-5 projects that I'd never gotten to it anyway.  At 72, how many projects can I complete before I really kick the bucket.?
Still having fun with ARC-5' since 1954,
Tom KE4RHH

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy (john rose)
   2. Re: ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy (Jay Coward via ARC5)
   3. Re: ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy (Jay Coward via ARC5)
   4. Re: Gluing felt (Michael A. Bittner)
   5. Re: ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy (Kenneth G. Gordon)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:54:50 +0000
From: john rose <brokenthumb at live.com>
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Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy
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Yes, I saw that ?alleged T22?.

I drooled over that ?alleged T22?

I opened my wallet. Empty.

I checked the credit card. Maxxed to the MaxMax.

I cried over that ?alleged T22?

I put it on my watch list.

After it sold BIN for $49, I was able to look at it again. My memory bell got rung. Many decades ago (drat, am I really old enough to say that?) I was successful in purchasing a T16 of dubious quality and a low price to match. I pulled it out of cold storage and found my memory had served and not sieved. C67, the oscillator pad, was modified in exactly the same manner as this one right down to the same rotors left in the same slots. I wonder if the same guy modded both. That brings up the question of the hour. That padder has the same number of plates as the HF rigs, that my ruler says are the same size as the HF rigs, and in a frame which is the same size as the HF rigs. Does anyone have any reason the two part numbers cannot be interchanged?  Or why I couldn?t replace this rotor with one from an HF rig to keep the original part number?

From: Kenneth G. Gordon
Sent: ?Thursday?, ?July? ?31?, ?2014 ?6?:?48? ?PM
To: David Stinson
Cc: arc5 mail list

On 31 Jul 2014 at 16:13, David Stinson wrote:

> > By the way, did anyone (besides myself) see the T-17/ARC-5 (1.3
> > to 2.1 Mc)
> > transmitter that was recently sold by an eBay seller as a T-21
> > (or T-22)?
> > Although it had been hacked, IMHO it was prefectly restorable.
> > As I remember it, it sold for something under $60.
>
> I missed it.
> (thinking of getting a rope... and a tree.... and looking for a
> chair.....)

Well, get a big rope, a strong tree, and a wide chair, cause I am seriously
thinking of joining you... :-(

It even still had that port down low on the left side of the front panel where
the loading coil connected... WITH its cap.

The "window" was missing, as was the loading coil, but everything else
appeared to be there...including that extra-long capacitor near the front
underneath.

The center capacitor looked as though it had had plates pulled, but that one
looked like the normal ones.

Ken W7EKB
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:26:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Coward via ARC5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
To: arc5 at ix.netcom.com, kgordon2006 at frontier.com, arc5 at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy
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Actually. a block of ice works well but much slower...and leaves them all thinking How? if the water evaporates before anyone shows up.
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: David Stinson <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
To: kgordon2006 <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>; ARC-5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth G. Gordon" <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>
> By the way, did anyone (besides myself) see the T-17/ARC-5 (1.3
> to 2.1 Mc)
> transmitter that was recently sold by an eBay seller as a T-21
> (or T-22)?
> Although it had been hacked, IMHO it was prefectly restorable.
> As I remember it, it sold for something under $60.

I missed it.
(thinking of getting a rope... and a tree.... and looking for a
chair.....)

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:37:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Coward via ARC5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
To: arc5 at ix.netcom.com, kgordon2006 at frontier.com, arc5 at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy
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And I just remembered the scene in "The Good. The Bad. And The Ugly" where Ely Wallach (the Bad) is strung up and standing on the rickety cross in the cemetery as Clint Eastwood (the Good) rides off,,, "Blondie, Your a Son of a............."and the theme song resumes as Clint fires the shot that sets Tuko (Ely) free.
Jay

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From: Jay Coward via ARC5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
To: arc5 <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>; kgordon2006 <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>; arc5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy

Actually. a block of ice works well but much slower...and leaves them all
thinking How? if the water evaporates before anyone shows up.
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: David Stinson <arc5 at ix.netcom.com>
To: kgordon2006 <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>; ARC-5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 2:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth G. Gordon" <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>
> By the way, did anyone (besides myself) see the T-17/ARC-5 (1.3
> to 2.1 Mc)
> transmitter that was recently sold by an eBay seller as a T-21
> (or T-22)?
> Although it had been hacked, IMHO it was prefectly restorable.
> As I remember it, it sold for something under $60.

I missed it.
(thinking of getting a rope... and a tree.... and looking for a
chair.....)

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:54:01 -0700
From: "Michael A. Bittner" <mmab at cox.net>
To: <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>, "ARC-5" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [ARC5] Gluing felt
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Yes, you have to make very careful measurements of the correct hole positions and mark them with a prick punch.

Mike, W6MAB

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kenneth G. Gordon
  To: ARC-5
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [ARC5] Gluing felt

  On 31 Jul 2014 at 15:21, Michael A. Bittner wrote:

  >
  > I use a paper punch to cut the holes in the felt. It's a pliers-like gizmo
  > that punches just one hole that is the same size as the holes cut by a regular
  > 3-hole paper punch.

  I tried that, but didn't have much luck with it. I could never get the holes lined
  up properly.

  However, once I have the felt glued down, taking the holes out in exactly the
  correct places is easy with a pencil-iron.

  Ken W7EKB
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:56:39 -0700
From: "Kenneth G. Gordon" <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>
To: john rose <brokenthumb at live.com>
Cc: ARC-5 <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [ARC5] ARC-5 T-20 Freq and recent eBay idiocy
Message-ID: <53DAE5C7.4664.2954700A at kgordon2006.frontier.com>
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On 31 Jul 2014 at 23:54, john rose wrote:

> Yes, I saw that `alleged T22?.
>
> I drooled over that `alleged T22?
>
> I opened my wallet. Empty.
>
> I checked the credit card. Maxxed to the MaxMax.
>
> I cried over that `alleged T22?
>

Same here: all of the above...

> I put it on my watch list.

So did I...then promptly forgot about it....

> After it sold BIN for $49, I was able to look at it again.

Sigh...I wasn't: I deleted the reference to it...

> My memory bell got
> rung. Many decades ago (drat, am I really old enough to say that?)

Aren't we all...well...at least **I** sure am...

> I was
> successful in purchasing a T16 of dubious quality and a low price to match. I
> pulled it out of cold storage and found my memory had served and not sieved.
> C67, the oscillator pad, was modified in exactly the same manner as this one
> right down to the same rotors left in the same slots. I wonder if the same guy
> modded both. That brings up the question of the hour. That padder has the same
> number of plates as the HF rigs, that my ruler says are the same size as the HF
> rigs, and in a frame which is the same size as the HF rigs. Does anyone have any
> reason the two part numbers cannot be interchanged?

Not **I** "said the Little Red Hen". I would most certainly try it.

>  Or why I couldn?t replace
> this rotor with one from an HF rig to keep the original part number?

Well, according to the AN/ARC-5 Navy maintenance manual, all of the T-15,
T-16, and T-17 use the same oscillator "tuning" capacitor, the ARC-9251,
while all the others use the ARC-5032. This is C-63 on the schematics.

For ALL transmitters, the oscillator padder, i.e., the one in the can on top, is
identical, ARC-4990

I have, so far, not found exact specifications on either one of these.

One clue might possibly be the tuning ranges: 300 Kc in the T-15, etc.

Ken W7EKB

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