[ARC5] Cautionary Tales--Linking Our World

[J. Forster]

Thanks. Tha6t's fine with me, since I don't have (or want) a cell.

-John

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> John
> I never have any problem with big corporations requesting a cell phone
> number---i give them yours! 
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, November 17, 2013 11:12 AM, J. Forster <jfor at quikus.com> wrote:
>
> It has been obvious to me that the 'add your cell number in case you loose
> your PW' offered by Google and Yahoo are a complete scam.
>
> The name of the game is data fusion/mining.
>
> Information is like toothpaste--  once out of the tube it's very hard to
> get back in.
>
> -John
>
> ==========
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>
>> It actually gets worse...Google is working with the cell phone networks
>> to
>> link the info they have to them so it can be used for stuff like caller
>> ID. Science fiction? It's already under way and people are already
>> working
>> on ways too block
>> it: http://www.zdnet.com/how-to-stop-google-from-using-your-plus-profile-as-caller-id-7000023191/
>>
>> So shortly after you search for "FT243 Crystal" on your PC, you will
>> pick
>> up your phone to make a call and an ad from Brian Carling will show up
>> on
>> your cell phone!
>>
>> 73 de N3RHT
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From: Don Merz <n3rht at yahoo.com>
>> To: Robert Eleazer <releazer at earthlink.net>; "arc5 at mailman.qth.net"
>> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Speaking of Cautionary Tales
>>
>>
>>
>> Google has linked the world. Google Adwords offers this as a service.
>> Yes,
>> they use info saved somehow (I am no net tech wiz) to bring up ads for
>> stuff you previously searched for. I don't think they are searching your
>> e-mails (but I have no idea--e-mail is not now nor ever was a secure
>> service). Since they own Youtube and have Google search, Gmail, G+,
>> Google
>> Drive and the other Google apps all now tied into one Google login ID,
>> they can collect information from you and deliver those ads across a
>> wide
>> variety of services you might use online. If you also use Google's
>> browser, Chrome, it facilitates this tracking and interaction in some
>> "advanced" ways--whatever that means. The only reason I am aware of this
>> is because my company has been evaluating using adwords. 
>> Brave New World indeed...
>> 73 de N3RHT
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>  From: Robert  Eleazer <releazer at earthlink.net>
>> To: arc5 at mailman.qth.net
>> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 7:49 PM
>> Subject: [ARC5] Speaking of Cautionary Tales
>>
>>
>> Here's a strange one for y'all to ponder.
>>
>> A few weeks back John Foster and I were exchanging personal e-mails
>> about
>> design of DC to AC inverters. 
>>
>> Now, for some time I have noted that if I go to some sales websites and
>> look some items, when I go to other news and information websites the
>> pop-up adverts often will be from those same sales websites showing
>> those
>> same items.  Obviously, they are reading the cookies left by those
>> websites and are figuring out what I am interested in and showing me
>> that
>> in the ads.
>>
>> But very soon after John and mine's discussions on inverters, on one of
>> the news and info websites I got a pop up
>>  advert for DC to AC inverters.  I had not gone to any sales website and
>> looked for those items, since John and I were discussing the design of
>> one I had built a long time ago.
>>
>> So how did that know about that if they were not reading my e-mails as
>> well as the cookies?
>>
>> Wayne 
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