[ARC5] Disc Capacitors

[J. Forster]

Been there, done it. The Chinese were VERY sharp traders even 35 years ago
when I was there.

They had no interest whatever in buying just the end product. They are not
fools.

The Chinese want every bit of IP, training for their people at your
facility in the US, support forever, and rights to sell the product
worldwide.

They will criticize your proiduct as 'obsolete' even while wanting to buy
the technology.

And, if by some miracle, you actually do sell something, the quantity
orders will never materialize. They will buy only samples, and then go in
competition with you at 1/10th the price.

And, if you go there to sell something, as the vendor you are expected to
host 'banquets' for the prospective purchasers. They hold them for you
too, but with a difference. The Seller's banquets cost hundreds per head,
the buyers dollars per head...  for identical food and venue.

I did have a great time while there...  got to walk on the Great Wall and
see the Forbidden City and gawk at a live Panda, but as a business
enterprize it was a worse bust than Solyndra.

And, the US government thinks they can 'negotiate' with this crowd?
Nonsense!!  Donald Trump, maybe; Obama or Kerry, not a hope in hell.

YMMV,

-John

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> The thing is, just try and sell into China.  EVERYTHING is gone over with
> a
> fine-toothed comb and you have to pay, even in cases where international
> treaty
> allows any testing lab, you have to pay for the Chinese lab to re-do the
> work to
> get in.
>
>
> On 3/3/2013 1:27 PM, Kenneth G. Gordon wrote:
>> On 3 Mar 2013 at 12:41, Geoff wrote:
>>
>>> Ive read similar horror stories about those blue 10-20KV 1000pf and
>>> similar caps on fleabay used as plate blocking in amps running 2-4KV.
>>> Also China.
>>>
>>> Carl
>> BOOM!
>>
>> Also, there is apparently a thriving business by certain Chinese vendors
>> in
>> VERY fake transistors, which look like "real" transistors, but are, in
>> many
>> cases, 2N2222s inside a much larger, more robust "case".
>>
>> MRF-485 comes to mind.
>>
>> This reminds me of the millions of defective electrolytic caps they made
>> and
>> sold which were used in thousands of computer motherboards a few years
>> ago.
>>
>> And their very marginal 572Bs....which aren't... really.
>>
>> Ken W7EKB
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