[ARC5] Quick sensistivity comparison
Bill Cromwell
wrcromwell at gmail.com
Thu Jun 13 17:54:27 EDT 2013
Hi Carl,
A couple of 'seat of the pants' observations from the peanut gallery.
On 06/13/2013 04:21 PM, Geoff wrote:
>
>
> Since you didnt specify mode or receiver bandwith those statements are
> rather ambiguous.
> When dealing with vintage receivers that have only fair to poor IF
> filtering I use the AM test for a 10dB SNR at 30 MHz at maximum
> bandwidth for the models mentioned and even .25 to .5uV is a very rare
> occurance. For CW I crank in whatever maximum selectivity is available
> and of course sets with selectable filters will have different
> results. And then measure MDS which is described as 3dB above the
> noise but many, myself included, can hear well below that.
I have been playing with the soundcard based digital signal processing
software. I noticed a long time ago I could hear and copy 100% signals
that do not even tickle the S-meter on receivers. Now with the soundcard
software I can see that some of those signals are hardly higher than the
grass (noise) on the spectrum displays.
--snip---
>
>
> I disagree about SS having lower sensitivity at HF and it has been
> proven many times by many people. The HRO-500 and others without PLL
> phase noise are extremely sensitive with very low internal noise.
> Those with a PLL vary considerably but most are very sensitive on a
> test bench. It is when the wide open untuned front ends meet
> hundreds/thousands of strong signals that the PLL becomes a noise
> generator.
> You can hear the noise during a contest by monitoring outside of the
> ham band and the backround noise will rise at the contest start and
> fall at the end.
>
> Carl
I have a dual loop PLL, uP controlled Ten Tec RX-325 that exhibits the
"features" you have mentioned. Just putting a Johnson Matchbox ahead of
it helps. I'm working up a *real* front end preselector filter to put in
that position.
73,
Bill KU8H
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