[ARC5] LDE
Fuqua, Bill L
wlfuqu00 at uky.edu
Thu Aug 29 13:39:33 EDT 2013
Per Wikipedia "In 1967, Jocelyn Bell Burnell and Antony Hewish of the University of Cambridge, UK dubbed the first discovered pulsar LGM-1 for "little green men" because the regular oscillations of its signal suggested a possible intelligent origin. Its designation was later changed to CP 1919, and is now known as PSR B1919+21."
73
Bill wa4lav
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From: Bruce Long [coolbrucelong at yahoo.com]
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To: Tim; Fuqua, Bill L
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Subject: Re: [ARC5] LDE
OR ALTERNATIVELY
" Little green man" Roger that
Didn't know midgets were into saving the environment.
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Subject: Re: [ARC5] LDE
LGM??
The first radio contact from Earth (a Ham) to an alien civilization will go something like this:
"OK, This is Antenna number 1 ......and.........This is Antenna number 2. Can you hear any difference?"
N6CC
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Fuqua, Bill L <wlfuqu00 at uky.edu<mailto:wlfuqu00 at uky.edu>> wrote:
I think LDE is really a LGM trying to make contact.
73
Bill wa4lav
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Subject: Re: [ARC5] LDE
Wierdest LDE effect I ever heard was hearing my own CQ in the receiver on 80 meters for quite a while after I had justf inished sending one. It turned out that it was a spur radiating from a VHS video tape that my wife was watching upstairs. The tape was recorded a few days earlier apparently while I was calling CQ then on the same frequency, and somehow the RF EMI picked up by the VCR made it onto the tape and was being reradiated on playback!
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The wildest LDE I ever experienced was on 20 meter SSB, on Field Day 1973. One of my friends, sitting right next to me, called CQ, and about 30 seconds later we both very clearly heard the transmission come back. My friend didn't recognize it as an LDE and was about to answer the CQ. My hair was standing up... I told him, "No -- that was YOU!" He hesitated a few moments, kind of stunned, and then tried calling CQ again but the phenomenon never repeated.
73
Mike
W4DSE
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From: Kenneth G. Gordon <kgordon2006 at frontier.com<mailto:kgordon2006 at frontier.com>>
To: Bruce Long <coolbrucelong at yahoo.com<mailto:coolbrucelong at yahoo.com>>
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On 18 Jul 2013 at 7:37, Bruce Long wrote:
> yes I think I heard one as well and there is scientific documentation-
> not much but some- of the phenomona.
The first one I experienced was VERY clearly an LDE. I was operating as
NCS on PAN (a CW traffic net) back in the 1960s or 1970s sometime. I was
operating full break-in with a KW rig I had then, a TechRad T-350-XM (wish I
still had that rig).
I began hearing a weaker signal between my sending and I thought it was
someone trying to break me and join the net.
The signal got stronger and stronger, and I finally figured out it was my own
sending coming back to me with a significant delay
The echo built up to a good 579. I tested it by sending "long dots", and
listening for the reply, which was, at its shortest, about 1/2 second or so, as I
remember it.
It built up to a peak in loudness, then slowly faded out and finally
disappeared.
The time between my sending and the echo became longer and longer as it
faded out.
The length of time this LDE lasted was on the order of several minutes from
when I first heard it to its final fade out.
The second such incident which occurred to me was much less "impressive",
only lasting a few seconds, and took place at least 25 years after the first
one. I don't remember much about that one, except that it did occur.
What little documentation I have read on these things never really satisfied
me as to the explanation of the cause. "Ducting" was one.
It is still a complete mystery to me.
Ken W7EKB
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