[ARC5] OT - Soviets aren't stupid, (Was TU-4 vs. B-29 Radio Sets)

[Geoff]

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> Along those lines, I was still working at the FAA Center
> here in Oklahoma City when the Soviets brought their
> monster jumbo jet in for an air show. I didn't get a
> chance to board and have a peek (for various reasons).
> Some of the FAA engineering and inspection types did
> and stated that it appeared to be put together rather
> crudely.
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> Whether it is engineering, manufacturing, poor quality
> of pilots or a combination of those factors, Russian
> aviation has an absolutely terrible safety record.
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> * 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5 *
> * (Since 30 Nov 53) *
> * k2gkk at hotmail.com *
> * Oklahoma City, OK *
> * USAF & FAA (Ret.) *
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>> From: vk2bcu at operamail.com
>> To: kk5f at arrl.net; arc5 at mailman.qth.net
>> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 07:30:35 +1100
>> Subject: [ARC5] OT - Soviets aren't stupid, (Was TU-4 vs. B-29 Radio 
>> Sets)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 4:04, Mike Morrow wrote:
>> > > There are stories of how even repair patches to cover battle damage 
>> > > on the
>> > > impounded B-29s were copied... as well as the interior paint job. 
>> > > Seems the
>> > > factory had run out of green chromate primer, and painted part of the 
>> > > inside
>> > > of one B-29 with white lead. Supposedly the insides of Tu-4s were
>> > > green-and-white, as a result.
>>
>> >
>> > Yes, those stories have been around forever. I don't believe a bit of
>> > it. The Soviets were not stupid, regardless of the desire of many in 
>> > the USA to
>> > believe that mythology.
>> >
>> > Mike / KK5F
>>
>> Yes, Mike.
>> I would like to change your "were not" to "are not" stupid. I once
>> worked with a marine engineer who spent some time in Africa working on
>> Russian-built locos. He told me that at first appearance the Russian
>> locos appeared primative. After working on them he had great respect
>> for the design. Every aspect of maintenance had been considered, and a
>> Russian-built loco would last forever. The Russians, my friend said,
>> were very clever.
>>
>> The same appears in other designs. The T-34 was superior to the German
>> Panzer Mk I to Mk 4, and when the Germans produced the super-heavy
>> Tigers the Russians had already countered with the JS-II. At 2/3 the
>> weight the JS-II can (or could) take a direct hit from a Tiger at 800m
>> (and survive). That's impressive. Then (on the small scale) there
>> was the Russian PPSh-41 machine pistol (or sub-machine gun); this was
>> the second most-used machine pistol used by the German army. Search
>> for PPSh-41 using Wikipedia. In the first photograph you will see a
>> German soldier sitting in the ruins of Stalingrad - cradling a Russian
>> PPSh-41 machine pistol. In the second photo you see a German soldier
>> surrendering to a Russian - who carries as PPSh-41.
>>
>> The Soviet (or Communist) system has flaws - the same flaws as we see in
>> the democratic system. This is that we humans always grab power, use it
>> for our own end, and won't give it up. The genius of the democratic
>> system is a recognition of this tendancy. The democratic solution is a
>> system that sees (or puts) power in the ballot box. To date the ballot
>> box has always won over human nature, but I'm not sure it always will.
>> I'm OT, but I felt your observation that "Soviets are not stupid"
>> deserves some support.
>>
>> Les
>>
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