[ARC5] Was Lend-Lease - now purpose of list postings.

Fri May 18 20:45:20 EDT 2012

Hello Geoff,
Thank you for your observation.  Certainly I was aware of the basis of
the comment I made - viz that the US government kept no record of the
cost of Lend-Lease during WWII.  That comment was made in the most US of
books, the Time-Life series of books on WW-II.  My brother has the full
set in his library.  I regard Time-Life as well informed.

So from that perspective my understanding was based on an authoritative
source.

Certainly I might "google" for info.  Perhaps I should have done that. 
However I have found that posting a question on this site gives a MUCH
wider perspective than what I may read using Google or Wikipedia.  The
knowledge of the subscribers to this list is diverse and well informed. 
In this case my guess about replies turned out to be correct, and apart
from postings on the list I had a number of private or "on-the-side"
communications that were very interesting.   The value of the ARC-5
reflector comes from the large collective knowledge of the list-members.

Now to the point of YOUR e-mail.
I'm simply a not-particularly-well-informed person seeking to learn
something, and the intent of my inquiry was to learn something.   That's
all.   We all like to learn - that's one of the delights of life.

Perhaps you can explain what I miss?
I wouldn't like my posting to offend.

Best wishes from Australia.

-- 
  Leslie Smith
  vk2bcu at operamail.com

On Sat, May 12, 2012, at 08:24 PM, Geoff wrote:
> Im rather suprised and annoyed that you couldnt be bothered to check the 
> facts before posting which prompted me to find them in about 30 seconds.
> 
> The UK paid the US and Canada in full by 2006 in 50 annual payments.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Leslie Smith" <vk2bcu at operamail.com>
> To: "ARC-5 List" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 5:40 PM
> Subject: [ARC5] Lend-Lease (was P-40 Found in Desert)
> 
> 
> > Hello List,
> > I would like to check the point that "UK paid all its bills".
> > I understand that no account was kept of lend-lease either to the UK or
> > to Russia.
> > I would like to have this confirmed (or denied) by a competent historian
> > using this list.
> >
> > I think this (lend-lease) was one of the most astonishing acts of
> > generosity in history.
> > D-Day and the losses by the 8th Air Army was more generous (in terms of
> > the cost to USA).
> > As I understand, USA began to supply lend-lease before Pearl Harbour,
> > due to some ingenious "politick-ing" on the part of that greatest of US
> > Presidents, Rooseveldt.  I remember in April '45 (funeral oration or
> > more likely in the press) it was said that men would remember his name
> > in 100 years, fall to their knees and say, "Thank God".   Well it's
> > true.  We should do that.  US has seen a number of brilliant Presidents
> > and FDR stands shoulder to shoulder with the very best.
> >
> > Returning to lend-lease - That's the reason for my interest in "Uk paid
> > all it's bills".
> > I don't believe the USA put in a bill.
> >
> > The other person we should thank is Eleanor R's policy for refugees and
> > the UN policy on refugees that resulted (1948.)  She was  prescient in
> > that regard.
> >
> > 73s
> >
> >
> >  Leslie Smith
> >  vk2bcu at operamail.com
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 12, 2012, at 03:02 PM, Geoff wrote:
> >> I believe the UK paid all its bills which is more than some countries
> >> did.
> >>
> >> Yes, 260 Squadron was flown by the RCAF if the current reports from
> >> Canada
> >> and the UK are correct. Hopefully they were as good at records keeping as
> >> the Germans.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Robert Eleazer" <releazer at earthlink.net>
> >> To: <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 1:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ARC5] P-40 Found in Desert
> >>
> >>
> >> > Looking on some of the enthusiast websites, it seems that based on
> >> > squadron codes barely viewable on the side, the airplane belonged to 
> >> > 260
> >> > Squadron, an RAF outfit.  It needed some repair to the landing gear so 
> >> > a
> >> > pilot, apparently Flt Sgt Dennis Copping, was directed to fly it with 
> >> > the
> >> > wheels down to a repair center.  It had long been assumed that he got 
> >> > lost
> >> > and ran out of fuel, ending up MIA.
> >> >
> >> > But it does not look like the wheels were down when it landed, or else 
> >> > it
> >> > would likely have flipped on its back.  The pilot may have got the 
> >> > wheels
> >> > up before making belly landing, which would be a wise thing to do.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder if perhaps since they were sending it to a repair center they
> >> > yanked the regular radio and put in that battery pack radio.  A view of
> >> > the cockpit shows what looks like a cable with an antenna connector on 
> >> > it
> >> > sticking up from somewhere.
> >> >
> >> > As for Aussie P-40's in the Middle East, there is a book on the subject
> >> > entitled "Desert Warriors: Australian P-40 Pilots at War in the Middle
> >> > East" which is available on half.com for only $252.25.   Y'all better
> >> > hurry because David is no doubt gonna jump right on that!
> >> >
> >> > I fully expect that airplane to be restored to flyable condition.  I 
> >> > have
> >> > seen far worse wrecks returned to the air recently.
> >> >
> >> > And by the Lend Lease rules under which that airplane was provided the
> >> > U.K. could either pay us for it or hand it back when they were done.
> >> >
> >> > Wayne
> >> > WB5WSV
> >> >
> >> >
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