[ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's
Geoff
geoffrey at jeremy.mv.com
Sun Jul 8 21:52:36 EDT 2012
While certainly feasible do you have any citations on this?
I have a side interest as another uncle worked for Sperry on the Norden bomb
sight.
----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
To: "Leslie Smith" <vk2bcu at operamail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's
>I was told that the collected pots and pans, etc, were ground up to make
> Thermite, a stociometric mix of Al powder and Iron Oxide. That was packed
> into bombs. The stuff burns very very hot.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermite
>
> That use makes a lot of sense to me, because alloy is irrelevant.
> Remember, incendiaries destroyed Dresden and much of Tokyo, causing
> firestorms.
>
> -John
>
> ================
>
>
>
>
>> Hello List:
>>> "The collected scrap was ground up to make Thermite for bombs. In that
>>> application, alloy is irrelevant." - John Foster
>>
>>
>> What? You mean they had thousands of people working in dozens of
>> factories, making this "stuff", and after it was made they shipped it
>> across the Atlantic, only to blew it up? What's the point in that?
>>
>> Surely - you've got to be joking, Mr. Feynman.
>>
>>
>>
>> Les
>> vk2bcu at operamail.com
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012, at 04:56 PM, J. Forster wrote:
>>> I have been given an answer off-list that makes much more sence.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> -John
>>>
>>> ==============
>>>
>>>
>>> > Alloy 75S (aka 7075) was developed during WW2.
>>> >
>>> > Besides most aircraft electronics were housed in aluminum chassis and
>>> > enclosures along with IF, and other cans, engine pistons, some
>>> shipboard
>>> > USN
>>> > electronics; even armor piercing shells were made of aluminum.
>>> >
>>> > After awhile it ads up and what scrap could be used elsewhere freed up
>>> > more
>>> > virgin metal for aircraft alloys.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Michael A. Bittner" <mmab at cox.net>
>>> > To: <kgordon2006 at frontier.com>; "D C *Mac* Macdonald"
>>> <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
>>> > Cc: <ARC5 at mailman.qth.net>
>>> > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 4:58 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I'll bet a lot of that AL was used for millions of canteens among
>>> other
>>> >> things.
>>> >>
>>> >> FWIW here are a couple of my mementos from WWII. On the left is a
>>> >> General
>>> >> Eisenhower medal that I won as a 10-year-old during the war. Lots of
>>> >> little kids won this medal by collecting 2000 lbs of paper for the
>>> scrap
>>> >> drive. Believe me, that's quite a pile for a ten year old.
>>> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vc1c3bpgd8s74n/IMG_5242.JPG
>>> >> On the right are a couple rationing coupons that you needed to buy
>>> meat,
>>> >> sugar, and other things that have previously been mentioned.
>>> >>
>>> >> We needed no psy-ops with the Gold-Star-Mother banners in the windows
>>> of
>>> >> houses, the constant air raid drills (my dad was also an air raid
>>> warden
>>> >> for our block), the 24-7 drone of aircraft engines being tested at
>>> the
>>> >> factory in nearby Patterson NJ, the training biplanes doing loops and
>>> >> rolls over the fields around our town, the search lights tracking
>>> >> aircraft
>>> >> at night, the oil fires off the Jersey shore, well I could go on and
>>> on.
>>> >>
>>> >> My parents belonged to the ANZAC club, an arrangement whereby
>>> Australian
>>> >> and New Zealand sailors could live in our house for the few days they
>>> >> had
>>> >> shore leave while their ships were in New York harbor. Most amusing
>>> were
>>> >> their comments on the American way of making tea "What is this
>>> sopping
>>> >> little bag for?" and our news broadcasts "You would the Americans are
>>> >> doing everything!".
>>> >>
>>> >> Mike, W6MAB
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: Kenneth G. Gordon
>>> >> To: D C *Mac* Macdonald
>>> >> Cc: ARC5 at mailman.qth.net
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 12:31 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Blackout ; Lend Lease and ARC-5's
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 8 Jul 2012 at 14:07, D C *Mac* Macdonald wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > AFAIK, aluminum can be recycled almost endlessly.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. Besides, the science of metallurgy was well advanced by WWII.
>>> >> Trash
>>> >> contained in most metals could be fairly easily removed.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ken W7EKB
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