[ARC5] The comms war - VHF & HF (a bit OT).
Scott Johnson
scottjohnson1 at cox.net
Sun Jul 8 15:10:27 EDT 2012
Belden still makes 3,4, 5 and six conductor shielded, rubber jacketed
control cable, you just need to contact them, as it is not a catalog item.
Lapp Kabel also has many rubber jacketed varieties.
Scott W7SVJ
-----Original Message-----
From: arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:arc5-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of J. Forster
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:12 AM
To: Richard Knoppow
Cc: ARC-5 List
Subject: Re: [ARC5] The comms war - VHF & HF (a bit OT).
Not so OT IMO.
Another list has been discussing R.1155s. They are well known examples of
what happend to poor quality rubber over time... It becomes like caked mud
and crumbles at the slightest touch. This can be very problematic in a
radio.
It is clear that some WW II rubber was pretty bad. Items from the 1920s and
1930s are fine, but 1940s stuff tends to become rock hard and almost as
brittle as glass. Rubber improved by the early 1950s, but not all.
Lately it has been replaced by vinyl, but some of that degrades into nasty,
sticky, goo.
BTW, does anyone know of a modern source for multiconductor real rubber
control cable, preferably with multicolor wires, about #20 or #22 that could
be used to rewire radios? Belden/Alpha used to make it, but seemingly not
now.
-John
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>
> I think one big difference is that rationing went on in the UK
> for much longer than in the US. I did find a partial list of rationed
> items on the web with dates. The earliest listed was tires and
> rubber. I remember that some delivery vehicles in Detroit were
> horse-drawn. I think this may have been partly due to the depression
> but also horse-drawn wagons do not use rubber or gasoline. They
> disappeared pretty quickly after the war.
> There has been some controversy about the necessity of some of
> the rationing but I think that does not recognize that the U.S. was
> supporting the UK and Russia and other allies. This is really OT so I
> will stop.
>
>
> --
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles
> WB6KBL
> dickburk at ix.netcom.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
> To: "Richard Knoppow" <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com>
> Cc: "Leslie Smith" <vk2bcu at operamail.com>; "ARC-5 List"
> <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] The comms war - VHF & HF (a bit OT).
>
>
>> OK. I was too young to have seen rationing in North America, but I
>> remember it as a kid visiting in the UK as I've said.
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ==================
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "J. Forster" <jfor at quikus.com>
>>> To: "Leslie Smith" <vk2bcu at operamail.com>
>>> Cc: "ARC-5 List" <arc5 at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [ARC5] The comms war - VHF & HF (a bit OT).
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Leslie,
>>>>
>>>> It was not only British factories that suffered.
>>>>
>>>> In about 1956, I was visiting my grandparents in Surrey.
>>>> I
>>>> was repeatedly
>>>> told not to go digging in the gardon or playing in the pond because
>>>> there were still unexploded bits from WW II dogfights there.
>>>> This was a full
>>>> decade after the war ended. They still had a bomb shelter.
>>>>
>>>> Also, in either 1952 or 1956 a few things were still rationed. I
>>>> remember eggs being scarce. The same grandparents had a chicken
>>>> coop and a few hens, BTW.
>>>>
>>>> I believe a few things (rubber, gasoline?) were rationed in the US,
>>>> but nowhere near the UK.
>>>>
>>>> -John
>>>>
>>> I don't know about British rationing but it was heavily applied
>>> here. Not only rubber and gasoline but meat, leather goods,
>>> including shoes, many metals and things made of them, also paper, a
>>> long list of things. I picked up a little alarm clock not long ago
>>> at a swap meet. The dial said Waralarm on it so I looked it up.
>>> Turns out that clocks were rationed because they contained brass.
>>> This alarm clock was designed to minimize the use of brass and was
>>> made to sell to war workers who needed to be there on time. I have
>>> not done a web search for rationing but there may be a list
>>> somewhere.
>>> I remember shopping with my mom and seeing the ration books.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Richard Knoppow
>>> Los Angeles
>>> WB6KBL
>>> dickburk at ix.netcom.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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