[ARC5] [Milsurplus] Wire

J. Forster jfor at quikus.com
Thu Sep 15 21:12:08 EDT 2011


YW. It looks OK for chassis wiring, but, sadly, not for cables.

I'm not sure there are any good alternatives to stranded Teflon in Expando
for cables. The nylon coated PVC seems to be very hard to get.

-John

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> It may not be cheap but it's a heck of a lot easier.  Thanks, John!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP BGI
> I am me.  I’m the only one who’s qualified.
> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
> http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
> Hiki Nô!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Forster [mailto:jfor at quikus.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 September, 2011 14:50
> To: h Kludge
> Cc: arc5 at mailman.qth.net; milsurplus at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [ARC5] Wire
>
> Not cheap, but:
>
> http://tubesandmore.com/Catalog/page_084_085.php
>
> -John
>
> ===========
>
>
>> In looking at the fabric over rubber wiring used way back when, there
>> seem
>> to be two different flavors, one that has the fabric kind of loose and
>> easily frayed and the other has the fabric somehow bonded to the rubber
>> which reduces fraying and makes for neater work.  Since I’m going to try
>> my
>> hand at making fabric over something wire in an attempt at making things
>> appear even more authentic*, it would be nice to know how it was done
>> originally.  “Something” may wind up plastic, vinyl or Teflon dependent
>> on
>> what I can get that looks right as to overall bulk.
>>
>>
>>
>> * I may even try lacing in the tracers which would probably not be good
>> therapy when they take me back to psych lockdown as a result of this
>> activity.  Nor would basket weaving.  :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> The way I think this will work is to use white older type flat
>> shoelaces,
>> wet them and force them over forms (read as: dowels) while they dry to
>> reduce or take out the creases.  (This may also require a bit of
>> ironing.)
>> After that, introduce them to some RIT dye to get the right base colors
>> for
>> color coded wiring and put them back over the forms to dry.  Assuming
>> (and
>> we all know what that word means) this works as planned, I may actually
>> try
>> lacing in the tracers although it would be insanely time & labor
>> intensive
>> and only a few people would actually realize that the tracers are
>> supposed
>> to be there.  I think all of them are in these lists.  Anyway, a little
>> yellow varnish to give it the official MFP look and I should have wire
>> good
>> for open cables.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the basic project goes well – i.e., the part about using shoelaces to
>> make a reasonable facsimile of WW II cloth covered wire – the next step
>> would be to use the same basic technique to make vinyl over white woven
>> fabric over vinyl wiring used in later aircraft.  I’m not sure I know
>> what
>> to seal the fabric with but after that’s done the top coat can be a dip
>> in
>> Dip-It clear vinyl.  If this works as I think it will, this will solve
>> the
>> problem of wiring up the Type 12 equipment with more or less period
>> appropriate open wire.
>>
>>
>>
>> Using shoelaces presents two problems right off.  First, the prices of
>> good
>> ones that don’t have the funky seams on each edge and are small enough
>> have
>> gone out of sight.  Second, it limits the size of any given run to the
>> length of the longest laces I can find.  On the other hand, for
>> everything
>> except the SCR-A*-183 I’ll be using open wiring as much as possible,
>> mostly
>> because I like it but also because a good number of my connectors are
>> for
>> open wiring and it’s easier to convert the ones that aren’t to that than
>> it
>> is the ones for open wiring to shielded cable.
>>
>>
>>
>> So there it is.  Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael, WH7HG ex-K3MXO, ex-KN3MXO, WPE3ARS, BL01xh ex-Mensa A&P PP BGI
>>
>> I am me.  I’m the only one who’s qualified.
>>
>>  <http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx>
>> http://www.nationalmssociety.org/chapters/NTH/index.aspx
>>
>>  <http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/> http://wh7hg.blogspot.com/
>>
>>  <http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com/>
>> http://kludges-other-blog.blogspot.com
>>
>> Hiki Nô!
>>
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