[Antennas] Push

Tue May 6 06:25:47 EDT 2008

Sorry forgot to include  a link
http://wonderpole.com/custom_telescoping_poles.html
73
KB8IPZ


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>    1. Push Up Masts (Joe)
>    2. Re: Push Up Masts (rbethman)
>    3. Re: Push Up Masts (Milt Jensen)
>    4. Re: Push Up Masts (Jim Miller)
>    5. Beverage On Ground (Gary Smith)
>    6. Re: Beverage On Ground (David Ring)
>    7. Re: Beverage On Ground (David Ring)
>    8. Re: Beverage On Ground (Rick Karlquist)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 16:01:14 -0500
> From: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
> Subject: [Antennas] Push Up Masts
> To: Antennas <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
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> Who makes them anymore?
> 
> Joe WB9SBD
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 17:26:20 -0400
> From: rbethman <rbethman at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Push Up Masts
> To: Antennas <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
> Cc: Joe <nss at mwt.net>
> Message-ID: <481F7B7C.2030301 at comcast.net>
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> Joe,
> 
> I've seen them at Lowe's.  You may have to order
> it.
> 
> The Electrical Department
> 
> Bob - N0DGN
> 
> Joe wrote:
> > Who makes them anymore?
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> 
> -- 
> Bob Bethman/NØDGN/BC-610/Northern Radio 
> SP-600 Manassas, VA - MultiBand Dipoles
> 
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 14:50:04 -0700
> From: "Milt Jensen"
> <n5ia at zia-connection.com>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Push Up Masts
> To: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>,
> "Antennas" <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
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> Joe,
> 
> You should try the following link.
> 
> http://www.pctinternational.com/channelmaster/0612/mountaccess.html#masts
> 
> 73 de Milt, N5IA
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe" <nss at mwt.net>
> To: "Antennas" <antennas at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 2:01 PM
> Subject: [Antennas] Push Up Masts
> 
> 
> > Who makes them anymore?
> > 
> > Joe WB9SBD
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:57:07 -0400
> From: Jim Miller <k4sqr at juno.com>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Push Up Masts
> To: nss at mwt.net
> Cc: antennas at mailman.qth.net
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> ROHN makes 20', 30', 40' and 50' pushup
> masts.
> The 70' model was discontinued about 2005.
> 
> See www.randl.com R&L Electronics in OH for prices.
> No connection with ROHN Tower Co.
> 
> Jim, K4SQR
> www.comteksystems.com
> Our 19th year of Hybrid Couplers
> Comtek, the 4-Square Experts
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> On Mon, 05 May 2008 16:01:14 -0500 Joe <nss at mwt.net>
> writes:
> > Who makes them anymore?
> > 
> > Joe WB9SBD
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 16:46:06 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Gary Smith <wa1tjb at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Antennas] Beverage On Ground
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> I am planning to install a BOG antenna for use on 160m and
> for BCB DX'ing.  I think I can get about 1,000 feet of
> wire out in the yard if I run it around the perimeter of
> the property.  I have two questions:
> 
> 1.  Is this an effective way to employ the BOG design?
> 2.  Do I need to use a termination resistor with this type
> of antenna and, if so, how should I expect it to affect
> performance?
> 
> Thanks for any advice you can give me.
> 
> 73
> Gary
> WA1TJB
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 00:12:36 +0000
> From: "David Ring" <n1ea at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Beverage On Ground
> To: "Gary Smith"
> <wa1tjb at yahoo.com>,	"Antenna Mailing List"
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> 1.  Yes
> 2.  No - the antenna will be bi-directional but won't
> have the problem
> with matching resistance.   The resistance will vary from
> 540 kHz to
> 1,900 kHz and you'd have to add radials for the ground
> system.  With
> no resistor you can use a hose reel and string out the
> antenna in your
> favorite direction.
> 
> 73
> 
> \David Ring
> 
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Gary Smith
> <wa1tjb at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am planning to install a BOG antenna for use on 160m
> and for BCB DX'ing.  I think I can get about 1,000 feet
> of wire out in the yard if I run it around the perimeter of
> the property.  I have two questions:
> >
> >  1.  Is this an effective way to employ the BOG
> design?
> >  2.  Do I need to use a termination resistor with this
> type of antenna and, if so, how should I expect it to affect
> performance?
> >
> >  Thanks for any advice you can give me.
> >
> >  73
> >  Gary
> >  WA1TJB
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 00:18:32 +0000
> From: "David Ring" <n1ea at arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Beverage On Ground
> To: "Gary Smith"
> <wa1tjb at yahoo.com>,	"Antenna Mailing List"
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> Also if you are running the wire in some sort of rectangle
> or shape
> that "comes" back, you don't want a resistor
> at all.  Also with that
> configuration - if it is "almost" a loop, why not
> connect the ends to
> your receiver and make it a "loop on ground"?
> 
> 73
> DR
> 
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:12 AM, David Ring
> <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
> > 1.  Yes
> >  2.  No - the antenna will be bi-directional but
> won't have the problem
> >  with matching resistance.   The resistance will vary
> from 540 kHz to
> >  1,900 kHz and you'd have to add radials for the
> ground system.  With
> >  no resistor you can use a hose reel and string out
> the antenna in your
> >  favorite direction.
> >
> >  73
> >
> >  \David Ring
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 5 May 2008 17:40:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Rick Karlquist"
> <richard at karlquist.com>
> Subject: Re: [Antennas] Beverage On Ground
> To: "Gary Smith" <wa1tjb at yahoo.com>
> Cc: antennas at mailman.qth.net
> Message-ID:
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> Due to the higher ground losses, a BOG 1000 ft long may
> only
> utilize a fraction of the length.  At my QTH a beverage 10
> feet
> high peters out long before 1000 ft is reached, let alone a
> BOG.
> If you make the BOG length beyond the stage where it is
> loss limited,
> you don't need a termination resistor, since nothing
> reflecting off
> the end ever makes it back to the source.  My first
> beverage was
> 1300 ft long.  It had 40 dB front to back, regardless of
> termination.
> Of course the last 500 ft or so was doing nothing but
> acting as a
> termination.  It contributed nothing to the received
> signal.
> 
> Also you do not run it "around the perimeter". 
> You run it in a
> straight line.
> 
> Rick N6RK
> 
> 
> Gary Smith wrote:
> > I am planning to install a BOG antenna for use on 160m
> and for BCB DX'ing.
> >  I think I can get about 1,000 feet of wire out in the
> yard if I run it
> > around the perimeter of the property.  I have two
> questions:
> >
> > 1.  Is this an effective way to employ the BOG design?
> > 2.  Do I need to use a termination resistor with this
> type of antenna and,
> > if so, how should I expect it to affect performance?
> >
> > Thanks for any advice you can give me.
> >
> > 73
> > Gary
> > WA1TJB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >      
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